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From: Billy McFall <bmcfall@redhat.com>
To: Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Cc: thomas.monjalon@6wind.com, wenzhuo.lu@intel.com, dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/3] ethdev: new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:32:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKLkqD7WffB9t14wQ9vyphGsL2-mpMhNdMa2Ss7aeKyK8odyKg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170323113716.57e27591@glumotte.dev.6wind.com>

Thank you for your comments. See inline.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 6:37 AM, Olivier MATZ <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
wrote:

> Hi Billy,
>
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 14:02:24 -0400, Billy McFall <bmcfall@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > Add a new API to force free consumed buffers on Tx ring. API will return
> > the number of packets freed (0-n) or error code if feature not supported
> > (-ENOTSUP) or input invalid (-ENODEV).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Billy McFall <bmcfall@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  doc/guides/conf.py                      |  7 +++++--
> >  doc/guides/nics/features/default.ini    |  4 +++-
> >  doc/guides/prog_guide/poll_mode_drv.rst | 28
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  doc/guides/rel_notes/release_17_05.rst  |  7 ++++++-
> >  lib/librte_ether/rte_ethdev.c           | 14 ++++++++++++++
> >  lib/librte_ether/rte_ethdev.h           | 31
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  6 files changed, 87 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >
>
> [...]
>
> > --- a/doc/guides/prog_guide/poll_mode_drv.rst
> > +++ b/doc/guides/prog_guide/poll_mode_drv.rst
> > @@ -249,6 +249,34 @@ One descriptor in the TX ring is used as a sentinel
> to avoid a hardware race con
> >
> >      When configuring for DCB operation, at port initialization, both
> the number of transmit queues and the number of receive queues must be set
> to 128.
> >
> > +Free Tx mbuf on Demand
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> > +Many of the drivers don't release the mbuf back to the mempool, or
> local cache, immediately after the packet has been
> > +transmitted.
> > +Instead, they leave the mbuf in their Tx ring and either perform a bulk
> release when the ``tx_rs_thresh`` has been
> > +crossed or free the mbuf when a slot in the Tx ring is needed.
> > +
> > +An application can request the driver to release used mbufs with the
> ``rte_eth_tx_done_cleanup()`` API.
> > +This API requests the driver to release mbufs that are no longer in
> use, independent of whether or not the
> > +``tx_rs_thresh`` has been crossed.
> > +There are two scenarios when an application may want the mbuf released
> immediately:
> > +
> > +* When a given packet needs to be sent to multiple destination
> interfaces (either for Layer 2 flooding or Layer 3
> > +  multi-cast).
> > +  One option is to make a copy of the packet or a copy of the header
> portion that needs to be manipulated.
> > +  A second option is to transmit the packet and then poll the
> ``rte_eth_tx_done_cleanup()`` API until the reference
> > +  count on the packet is decremented.
> > +  Then the same packet can be transmitted to the next destination
> interface.
>
> By reading this paragraph, it's not so clear to me that the packet
> that will be transmitted on all interfaces will be different from
> one port to another.
>
> Maybe it could be reworded to insist on that?
>
>
What if I add the following sentence:

  Then the same packet can be transmitted to the next destination interface.
+ The application is still responsible for managing any packet
manipulations needed between the different destination
+ interfaces, but a packet copy can be avoided.


>
> > +
> > +* If an application is designed to make multiple runs, like a packet
> generator, and one run has completed.
> > +  The application may want to reset to a clean state.
>
> I'd reword into:
>
> Some applications are designed to make multiple runs, like a packet
> generator.
> Between each run, the application may want to reset to a clean state.
>
> What do you mean by "clean state"? All mbufs returned into the mempools?
> Why would a packet generator need that? For performance?
>
> Reworded as you suggested, then attempted to explain a 'clean state'.
Also reworded the last sentence a little.

+ * Some applications are designed to make multiple runs, like a packet
generator.
+   For performance reasons and consistency between runs, the application
may want to reset back to an initial state
+   between each run, where all mbufs are returned to the mempool.
+   In this case, it can call the ``rte_eth_tx_done_cleanup()`` API for
each destination interface it has been using
+   to request it to release of all its used mbufs.


> Also, do we want to ensure that all packets are actually transmitted?
>

Added an additional sentence to indicate that this API doesn't manage
whether or not the packet has been transmitted.

  Then the same packet can be transmitted to the next destination interface.
  The application is still responsible for managing any packet
manipulations needed between the different destination
  interface, but a packet copy can be avoided.
+  This API is independent of whether the packet was transmitted or
dropped, only that the mbuf is no longer in use by
+  the interface.


> Can we do that with this API or should we use another API like
> rte_eth_tx_descriptor_status() [1] ?
>
> [1] http://dpdk.org/dev/patchwork/patch/21549/
>
> I read through this patch. This API doesn't indicate if the packet was
transmitted or dropped (I think that is what you were asking). This API
could be used by the application to determine if the mbuf has been
freed, as opposed to polling the rte_mbuf_refcnt_read() for a change
in value. Did I miss your point?

>
> Thanks,
> Olivier
>

Thanks,
Billy McFall

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-23 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-20 16:01 [PATCH v3 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Billy McFall
2017-01-20 16:01 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ethdev: " Billy McFall
2017-01-20 16:01 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] net/e1000: e1000 igb support to free consumed buffers Billy McFall
2017-01-22  3:47   ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-01-23 13:49     ` Billy McFall
2017-01-24  0:42       ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-01-20 16:01 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] net/vhost: vHost " Billy McFall
2017-01-23 15:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Thomas Monjalon
2017-01-23 21:13 ` [PATCH v4 " Billy McFall
2017-01-23 21:13   ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ethdev: " Billy McFall
2017-01-23 21:13   ` [PATCH v4 2/3] net/e1000: e1000 igb support to free consumed buffers Billy McFall
2017-01-23 21:13   ` [PATCH v4 3/3] net/vhost: vHost " Billy McFall
2017-01-27 18:37   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Billy McFall
2017-01-27 18:37     ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ethdev: " Billy McFall
2017-02-27 13:48       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-07 14:29         ` Billy McFall
2017-03-07 16:03           ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-09 15:49             ` Billy McFall
2017-03-09 17:11               ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-07 16:35           ` Mcnamara, John
2017-03-07 16:42       ` Mcnamara, John
2017-01-27 18:37     ` [PATCH v5 2/3] net/e1000: e1000 igb support to free consumed buffers Billy McFall
2017-02-27 13:49       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-02-28  1:07       ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-01-27 18:38     ` [PATCH v5 3/3] net/vhost: vHost " Billy McFall
2017-02-27 13:50       ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-02-28  6:41         ` Yuanhan Liu
2017-03-01 10:15           ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-03-07 21:59     ` [PATCH v5 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-09 20:51     ` [PATCH v6 " Billy McFall
2017-03-09 20:51       ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ethdev: " Billy McFall
2017-03-15 10:29         ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-15 15:01           ` Billy McFall
2017-03-15 10:30         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-09 20:51       ` [PATCH v6 2/3] net/e1000: e1000 igb support to free consumed buffers Billy McFall
2017-03-13  3:17         ` Lu, Wenzhuo
2017-03-09 20:51       ` [PATCH v6 3/3] net/vhost: vHost " Billy McFall
2017-03-15 10:27         ` Thomas Monjalon
2017-03-15 18:02       ` [PATCH v7 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Billy McFall
2017-03-15 18:02         ` [PATCH v7 1/3] ethdev: " Billy McFall
2017-03-23 10:37           ` Olivier MATZ
2017-03-23 13:32             ` Billy McFall [this message]
2017-03-24 12:46               ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-24 13:18                 ` Billy McFall
2017-03-24 13:30                   ` Olivier Matz
2017-03-15 18:02         ` [PATCH v7 2/3] net/e1000: e1000 igb support to free consumed buffers Billy McFall
2017-03-15 18:02         ` [PATCH v7 3/3] net/vhost: vHost " Billy McFall
2017-03-15 20:25         ` [PATCH v7 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Wiles, Keith
2017-03-24 18:55         ` [PATCH v8 " Billy McFall
2017-03-24 18:55           ` [PATCH v8 1/3] ethdev: " Billy McFall
2017-03-24 18:55           ` [PATCH v8 2/3] net/e1000: e1000 igb support to free consumed buffers Billy McFall
2017-03-24 18:55           ` [PATCH v8 3/3] net/vhost: vHost " Billy McFall
2017-03-27 15:20           ` [PATCH v8 0/3] new API to free consumed buffers in Tx ring Thomas Monjalon
2017-04-19 16:25           ` Ferruh Yigit

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