From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45074ECE560 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4192156B for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="dF//vxgg" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org EE4192156B Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2391667AbeIVFW0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 22 Sep 2018 01:22:26 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f170.google.com ([209.85.214.170]:43598 "EHLO mail-pl1-f170.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725766AbeIVFWZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 22 Sep 2018 01:22:25 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f170.google.com with SMTP id 38-v6so6587882plc.10 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sGxU+ZdCT5EqKvYub1OMkqfBWtzLKVW/Krgf29+um5s=; b=dF//vxggESahnmpolpZrqa41hZ2UIqf/cIClGA+cQjQwHbCOPCnEA+OecCUMeApQPg SPZDorBV6cbjurXRlzvopIOnNZG1bvMktza1tW9Gg+tlrz44PN09cYP0mfpeDxq6coTO c8VpgloLU0rYzE/ffYWdpLw3acgWyKS6j/o8xOoVPATlLmJ2VSBUjbHRYAK8OmKoC2qA T+jmDZxf3c81dFtFyinNN+Xlogs7C+kr0NeiXCCSmKX5KYuZlAGGHlUZAggdas9agxPO qBISIMWLaFgdg+W9G76rLUxzClI68fbbRICaBAv1W6IuMnO5swVKlEp7RosDrwRMmO5W R6Rg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sGxU+ZdCT5EqKvYub1OMkqfBWtzLKVW/Krgf29+um5s=; b=rAdQnnfAq+WxZ796uCsuGiBRbpLYnuFx51blo3doVhICS2pLxt+chtt/IybwYfaU7B EFivXIkaik7fbOC+tY5rj1qRDIlEUdSPbn/O9eZtn98KdV4OQXg9BK1CjdSCqKu8pGTj Uz6fPBK5QRbSL2W+2FGLG2Y5dpgq7x+qU8v0ks6+mVs+JFAsOLz6rseo65n8lnNdSNPk FbGilA4hW3BzEom99rJCBVlIio2MGbQ7kqdxrksE4ypPWZIyHQLGOzp7oFXgkdG8A2l6 LE+W+QXv5vh1kcKs4JE9CRGL80HW2moxQwc7jkra4n8pJMOTHw6IYF6pEPIrdoI1LZgS c7fw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CqswExidlDA+WsLwgIc+QsDXibEfxUuOp1qTAAheJRZWWr2LJ+ GPhrrrhJ4d4IbSaGYjPVhFV3GZzHxSXF7IW3WFP9Yho5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdbDwd+kvPaYCXW8tePXDGtSjtHoDi+TEU9adk2geAKoi9rjtJtUrsm3LM8P9HcSpRGuBxLTxUXN8SWEdnIKg14= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:4001:: with SMTP id b1-v6mr46408586pld.312.1537572677673; Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net> <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net> <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net> <589966d9cd0ddccc88f33fcb7975bb4464be7696.camel@surriel.com> <87zhwbj8xe.fsf@redhat.com> <20180921231545.GC2966@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20180921231545.GC2966@thunk.org> From: "jonsmirl@gmail.com" Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 19:31:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it. To: Theodore Tso , dreamingforward@gmail.com, fche@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com, ec429@cantab.net, Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , lkml Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 7:17 PM Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > > People can decide who they want to respond to, but I'm going to gently > suggest that before people think about responding to a particular > e-mail, that they do a quick check using "git log --author=3Dxyzzy@exampl= e.com" > then decide how much someone appears to be a member of the community > before deciding how and whether their thoughts are relevant. How does this part apply to email addresses used to commit code? * Publishing others=E2=80=99 private information, such as a physical or ele= ctronic address, without explicit permission It appears to me that this would conflict with the GPL since the GPL granted the right to distribute (or even print it in a book) Linux and Linux contains email addresses. This also seems contradictory with the Reply button I used to send this email. How do you reconcile working on a public project while keeping email address secret? > > There are a lot of strong feelings on this issue, and allowing people > who aren't members of the Linux kernel development community, to > escalate the rhetoric --- either in the pro- or anti- CoC direction, > and whether on mailing lists, github comment threads, Twitter, or > Reddit --- is not helpful. > > For example.... > > > >* Showing empathy towards other community members > > > > Your pussy hurts? Maybe you should have just accepted that your a boy! > > > > I think Linus is perfectly fine in conduct. I mean, this bullshit > > pressure comes from corporations and other wierd places (all > > seeing eye) that want to "help". > > There are people commenting from all sides that are wanting to "help". > But I hope that it is obvious that the above text is *not* *helpful*. > Mark, please stop. > > - Ted --=20 Jon Smirl jonsmirl@gmail.com