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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
Cc: "mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, alan.cox@intel.com, "Gross,
	Mark" <mark.gross@intel.com>,
	"fengguang.wu@intel.com" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:17:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtAj1sye899ac5eMwgrHOLbGmrQhmRK5xEF3s2W6y0BReQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140729014343.GE5203@intel.com>

On 29 July 2014 03:43, Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:12:37AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do you really need to have *w for computing the load_sum ? can't you
>> >> only use it when computing the load_avg ?
>> >>
>> >> sa->load_avg = div_u64(sa->load_sum * w , LOAD_AVG_MAX)
>> >>
>> >
>> > For task, assuming its load.weight does not change much, yes, we can. But in theory, task's
>>
>> I would even say that the load_avg of a task should not be impacted by
>> an old priority value. Once, the priority of a task is changed, we
>> should only take into account this new priority to weight the load_avg
>> of the task
>>
>> > load.weight can change, and *w in load_sum can take into that change. For group entity
>> > and cfs_rq, its load.weight changes all the time, I don't know how to do it without *w
>> > for load_sum.
>>
>> IMHO, we should apply the same policy than the one i mentioned for
>> task. So the load_avg of an entity or a cfs_rq will not be disturbed
>> by an old but no more valid weight
>>
>
> Well, I see your point. But the problem is what matters is load_avg vs. load_avg, not a
> load_avg itself. So, if load_avg1 discards old weight if weight is changed, but load_avg2
> has no weight changed or has weight changed, the comparison load_avg1 vs. load_avg2 is not
> fair, but too impacted by the new weight. The point is, we count in history, so connt in the
> real history, which is the whole point of why we count the history. Make sense?

IIUC, you want to soften the impact of weight change on cfs_rq-> load_avg ?

>
> Thanks,
> Yuyang

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-29 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 23:26 [PATCH 0/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/2 v4] sched: Remove update_rq_runnable_avg Yuyang Du
2014-07-17 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Yuyang Du
2014-07-18  9:43   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-27 17:36     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-29  1:43         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:17           ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2014-07-29 22:27             ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-30  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30  0:40                 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29  9:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:53           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:35             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 15:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29 23:08               ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  9:40             ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31  9:56             ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average Vincent Guittot
2014-07-31 19:16               ` Yuyang Du
2014-08-01  9:28                 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-07-28 10:48   ` [PATCH 2/2 v4] sched: Rewrite per entity runnable load average tracking Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  0:56     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:09     ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 12:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 13:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-28 16:58     ` bsegall
2014-07-28 17:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:13         ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-18 15:39 ` [PATCH 0/2 " Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-27 19:02   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-29  1:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-29 13:06         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:13     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 10:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-30 10:57         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-30 19:17       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-31  8:54         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-31  2:15           ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-20  5:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-27 19:34   ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  7:49     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-07-28  0:01       ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-28  8:55     ` Peter Zijlstra

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