From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757495AbcFAJZK (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:25:10 -0400 Received: from mail-lf0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:36702 "EHLO mail-lf0-f44.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752489AbcFAJZH (ORCPT ); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:25:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160601010311.GV18670@intel.com> References: <1464657098-24880-1-git-send-email-yuyang.du@intel.com> <1464657098-24880-2-git-send-email-yuyang.du@intel.com> <20160531092146.GT3192@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160531013132.GQ18670@intel.com> <1464757633.4023.39.camel@gmail.com> <20160601000105.GU18670@intel.com> <20160601010311.GV18670@intel.com> From: Vincent Guittot Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:24:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] sched: Clean up SD_BALANCE_WAKE flags in sched domain build-up To: Yuyang Du Cc: Mike Galbraith , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , linux-kernel , Benjamin Segall , Paul Turner , Morten Rasmussen , Dietmar Eggemann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 1 June 2016 at 03:03, Yuyang Du wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 10:32:53AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote: >> > Yup. Up to this point, we don't have any disagreement. And I don't think we >> > have any disagreement conceptually. What the next patch really does is: >> > >> > (1) we don't remove SD_BALANCE_WAKE as an important sched_domain flag, on >> > the contrary, we strengthen it. >> > >> > (2) the semantic of SD_BALANCE_WAKE is currently represented by SD_WAKE_AFFINE, >> > we actually remove this representation. >> > >> > (3) regarding the semantic of SD_WAKE_AFFINE, it is really not about selecting >> > waker CPU or about the fast path. Conceptually, it is just saying the waker >> > CPU is a valid and important candidate if SD_BALANCE_WAKE, which is just so >> > obvious, so I don't think it deserves to be a separate sched_domain flag. >> > >> > (4) the outcome is, if SD_BALANCE_WAKE, we definitely will/should try waker CPU, >> > and if !SD_BALANCE_WAKE, we don't try waker CPU. So nothing functional is >> > changed. >> >> >> AFAIU, there is 4 possible cases during wake up: >> - we don't want any balance at wake so we don't have SD_BALANCE_WAKE >> nor SD_WAKE_AFFINE in sched_domain->flags >> - we only want wake affine balance check so we only have >> SD_WAKE_AFFINE in sched_domain->flags >> - we want wake_affine and full load balance at wake so we have both >> SD_BALANCE_WAKE and SD_WAKE_AFFINE in sched_domain->flags >> - we want full load balance but want to skip wake affine fast path so >> we only have SD_BALANCE_WAKE in sched_domain->flags >> >> I'm not sure that we can still do only wake_affine or only full >> load_balance with your changes whereas these sequences are valid ones > > So with the patch, we will have a little bit semantic change, SD_BALANCE_WAKE > implies SD_WAKE_AFFINE if allowed, and will favor "fast path" if possible. I don't > think we should do anything otherwise. Why should we not do anything else ? The current default configuration is to only use the wake_affine path. With your changes, the default configuration will try to use wake affine and will fall back to long load balance sequence if wake affine doesn't find a sched_domain That's a major changes in the behavior > > So I think this is a combined case better than either of the "only wake_affine" > or "only full" cases. Make sense?