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From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
To: Joseph Salisbury <joseph.salisbury@canonical.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [v4.8-rc1 Regression] sched/fair: Apply more PELT fixes
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 12:58:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKfTPtDLLzt2s0_p2uw3dt8MRH0o8_Tus6P5Uze+6gBHFm-rVg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57FE6302.6060103@canonical.com>

Hi,

On 12 October 2016 at 18:21, Joseph Salisbury
<joseph.salisbury@canonical.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/2016 08:20 AM, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:49, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2016-10-08 at 13:37 +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 10:39, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 03:38:23PM -0400, Joseph Salisbury wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A kernel bug report was opened against Ubuntu [0].  After a
>>>>>>> kernel
>>>>>>> bisect, it was found that reverting the following commit
>>>>>>> resolved this bug:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> commit 3d30544f02120b884bba2a9466c87dba980e3be5
>>>>>>> Author: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>>>>>>> Date:   Tue Jun 21 14:27:50 2016 +0200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     sched/fair: Apply more PELT fixes
>>>> This patch only speeds up the update of task group load in order to
>>>> reflect the new load balance but It should not change the final value
>>>> and as a result the final behavior. I will try to reproduce it in my
>>>> target later today
>>> FWIW, I tried and failed w/wo autogroup on 4.8 and master.
>> Me too
>>
>> Is it possible to get some dump of  /proc/sched_debug while the problem occurs ?
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>>         -Mike
>
> The output from /proc/shed_debug can be seen here:
> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23312351/

I have looked at the dump and there is something very odd for
system.slice task group where the display manager is running.
system.slice->tg_load_avg is around 381697 but  tg_load_avg is
normally equal to Sum of system.slice[cpu]->tg_load_avg_contrib
whereas Sum of system.slice[cpu]->tg_load_avg_contrib = 1013 in our
case. We can have some differences because the dump of
/proc/shed_debug is not atomic and some changes can happen but nothing
like this difference.

The main effect of this quite high value is that the weight/prio of
the sched_entity that represents system.slice in root cfs_rq is very
low (lower than task with the smallest nice prio) so the system.slice
task group will not get the CPU quite often compared to the user.slice
task group: less than 1% for the system.slice where lightDM and xorg
are running compared 99% for the user.slice where the stress tasks are
running. This is confirmed by the se->avg.util_avg value of the task
groups which reflect how much time each task group is effectively
running on a CPU:
system.slice[CPU3].se->avg.util_avg = 8 whereas
user.slice[CPU3].se->avg.util_avg = 991

This difference of weight/priority explains why the system becomes
unresponsive. For now, I can't explain is why
system.slice->tg_load_avg = 381697 whereas is should be around 1013
and how the patch can generate this situation.

Is it possible to have a dump of /proc/sched_debug before starting
stress command ? to check if the problem is there from the beginning
but not seen because not overloaded. Or if it the problem comes when
user starts to load the system

Thanks,

>
> Ingo, the latest scheduler bits also still exhibit the bug:
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-13 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-07 19:38 [v4.8-rc1 Regression] sched/fair: Apply more PELT fixes Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-07 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-07 20:22   ` Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-07 20:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-08  8:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-08  8:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-10-08 11:37     ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-08 11:49       ` Mike Galbraith
2016-10-12 12:20         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-12 15:35           ` Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-12 16:21           ` Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-13 10:58             ` Vincent Guittot [this message]
2016-10-13 15:52               ` Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-13 16:48                 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-13 18:49                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-13 21:34                     ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-14  8:24                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-14 13:10                         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-14 15:18                           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-14 16:04                             ` Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-17  9:09                               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-17 11:49                                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-17 13:19                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-17 13:54                                     ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-17 22:52                                       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-18  8:43                                         ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18  9:07                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18  9:45                                           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 10:34                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-18 11:56                                               ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 21:58                                                 ` Joonwoo Park
2016-10-19  6:42                                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19  9:46                                                 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-19 11:25                                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19 15:33                                                     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-19 17:33                                                       ` Joonwoo Park
2016-10-19 17:50                                                       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19 11:33                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19 11:50                                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-19 13:30                                                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-10-19 17:41                                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-20  7:56                                                     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-10-19 14:49                                                 ` Joseph Salisbury
2016-10-19 14:53                                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2016-10-18 11:15                                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-10-18 12:07                                             ` Peter Zijlstra

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