From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9966C3815B for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 18:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EF0206E9 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 18:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="pKbkatNn" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726492AbgDTS3E (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:29:04 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:58848 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725784AbgDTS3D (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Apr 2020 14:29:03 -0400 Received: from mail-vs1-xe41.google.com (mail-vs1-xe41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e41]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6FFCC061A0C for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-xe41.google.com with SMTP id b5so6720893vsb.1 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ingzTTpTxQPWSD2b0GaOXkT/jV8ebf/H4GVKJ2ixn00=; b=pKbkatNn4mQsQ7Hzd1pZBxr3R8T8pzBjLwXpPdfcZ9Bg9wvil7HY4Dj0dhkyivYSta Czh49D2hbsCDUXRGef4ZQfkVefjV+AE9nxOKoahy6hL8F8oHkk4Zf8oNnyRGATtkoB07 dbwoKFBSVs6lizQfPXoMLat005LgQK9y2mWSUwTw3Xwkix7jQdBMSfX/PWbJcRYUkd3k wAGfwozHz5hukJbjHbz0l8u4qOosuRIWcmanzU31LHhYHa/Oz5V60X70XaK13XedByKa stCRKKg9bROR0qjuGhEirhRPCOGGhLgoUcmtEJa+BlmzE/YJt45CsTLJk4765YFvgAVD BBWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ingzTTpTxQPWSD2b0GaOXkT/jV8ebf/H4GVKJ2ixn00=; b=cl2IKOCImxzTte7w77lEIaKNh4yYq4KpLwjuj7deHZOQ/MsT2VDR2dHovfLgUnmUTC 9yult+UWoYIRwCChqudv9haBPND9H77aaFHLaed22bmrlJ1RgPExMlgf00omNndutxh1 t5ilM2wJ4nPN2t8yXGeRaEidcGA4ybItDopR0laSUGlDpeKWZvSerkYxEZggmi1Hs05+ VYxidVXau73q842M5ZbEpzDhkuaRiIAFbm66xaxekyJTdLjI3DIj8/fidN2JBtfoWidv zro/ixx3Ih0QSQVNHZ/tQxzbHlMFVVCuLbLWMNEbuD63kMM9KhO946CpsxbJUi46Wtep jqHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua1FBemqerQPRkdaII5KD1WbCdEoFKJOjloo0ulKYNRCLUj+Uwv 0FSKfCTuburDlKq+s0p8w9ODQWMumzy0tngHcho= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI4x80IE7cbs/EbcI9KFOJCj2p2HaP4UGejWwkSUAOeenuPo1gqBFIiitg6NZvqa39j3uCE5bu34tb1Q8aHr0I= X-Received: by 2002:a67:2c97:: with SMTP id s145mr11836192vss.98.1587407342896; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:29:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200419064828.GA32141@Debian-50-lenny-64-minimal> <532e2c98-09ca-ee0c-be4b-0c51d4b42eef@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 20:28:51 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Errors in man pages, here: st(4): Content To: =?UTF-8?B?S2FpIE3DpGtpc2FyYSAoS29sdW1idXMp?= Cc: Helge Kreutzmann , linux-man Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: linux-man-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-man@vger.kernel.org Hello Kai, On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 17:42, "Kai M=C3=A4kisara (Kolumbus)" wrote: > > > > > On 20. Apr 2020, at 11.11, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > > > > [CC +=3D Kai] > > > > On 4/19/20 8:48 AM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: > >> Dear manpages maintainers. > >> the manpage-l10n project maintains a large number of translations of > ... > > > > I do not know. Perhaps Kai can help. > > > > Kai, the text in question is > > > > MT_ST_AUTO_LOCK (Default: false) > > When this option is true, the drive door is locke= d > > when the device is opened and unlocked when it i= s > > closed. > > > > I believe Helge asks whether the text should read: > > > > MT_ST_AUTO_LOCK (Default: false) > > When this option is true, the drive door is locke= d > > when the device is CLOSED and unlocked when it i= s > > OPEN. > > > The orginal text is correct. This is section 4 man page meaning that it > describes the programming interface, Opening the device means > opening the device file, i.e., starting to use the device from the > computer and the drive should be closed when the drive is operating. > It can be opened when the device file is closed and the device is > not in use. > > This might be clearer if the text would say =E2=80=9Cwhen the device file= is > opened=E2=80=9D? I admit that the original text, while correct, may not b= e > obvious to non-programmers. Thanks. And I made your suggested wording change, which I think is helpful to prevent misunderstandings. Cheers, Michael --=20 Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/