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From: Liam Breck <liam@networkimprov.net>
To: Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>
Cc: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Liam Breck <kernel@networkimprov.net>
Subject: Re: [04/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Add no_register_reset pdata flag
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:34:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKvHMgRcutF7LfyWy8nopbOj4tk9M+U4StBPjcN0UzsY5iFRtA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170320211445.fuvjj25ezons2yjn@earth>

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:22:55PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 20-03-17 19:19, Liam Breck wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 20-03-17 18:51, Liam Breck wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 20-03-17 14:54, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 20-03-17 06:27, Sebastian Reichel wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:42:00AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > <snip>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > We want one driver which is solidly in control of the charger
>> > > > > > > > since getting that wrong is quite bad and we want to extend
>> > > > > > > > the information it is exporting to userspace in the form of
>> > > > > > > > power_supply properties with some extra info.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > So taking that as a starting point and generalizing that,
>> > > > > > > > I think that if we want we can make something more generic then
>> > > > > > > > my original patch for this. My idea is to introduce something
>> > > > > > > > called a power_supply_properties_provider, with an API
>> > > > > > > > like this:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks for thinking about this. From what I can see it should
>> > > > > > > be enough to just avoid exposing a battery device at all in
>> > > > > > > the charger driver, though. It does not really provide useful
>> > > > > > > information anyways.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Interesting suggestion, 2 remarks / questions:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 1) Given that we do not want to break existing setups
>> > > > > > which may depend on the existing battery interface on the bq24190
>> > > > > > driver and add a flag to not register it, or are you suggesting
>> > > > > > to simply remove it all together? Removing it all together would
>> > > > > > be better from a maintenance pov. Liam, you indicated that you
>> > > > > > are the main user of the bq24190 driver currently, do you need
>> > > > > > the battery power_supply interface for your use case ?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2) Not using the battery interface of the bq24190 driver at all
>> > > > > > means that the fuelgauge driver needs to grow some extra
>> > > > > > properties, specifically it will need to start reporting status,
>> > > > > > something which the bq24190 driver really has a better idea
>> > > > > > of the the fuel gauge.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Our userspace looks at bq24190-battery & -charger. If your userspace
>> > > > can work with /sys/class/power_supply/whisky_cove-battery/* can't you
>> > > > leave .bq24190-battery as is?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > No, my userspace is a generic distro which uses upower, which as I
>> > > explained before will look at *all* battery type power_supply devices
>> > > and will consider each of them being a separate battery. There *must*
>> > > be only one battery type power_supply per physical battery, that is
>> > > simply how the userspace ABI works.
>> > >
>> > > > bq24190-battery's properties could move to -charger, tho health &
>> > > > online would have to change name, replace same in -charger, or be
>> > > > dropped.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > That is one option, I can also simply make the registration dependent
>> > > on a device-property, then you do not need to change your userspace.
>> > >
>> > > In that case I would prefer for the behavior to be to not register
>> > > the battery power_supply device unless the boolean device(tree)-property
>> > > named "linux,register-battery-power-supply" is present. But if you
>> > > need things to keep working the same with older dtb files which
>> > > will not contain that property, we can also go for:
>> > > "linux,disable-battery-power-supply"
>> >
>> > Just if (!pdata->x) register(battery). Eventually I'll have to move
>> > those properties to charger, as we added a fuel gauge after charger
>> > driver was written.
>>
>> Sebastian want to kill the pdata and move to device-properties as
>> both you (IIRC) and Andy already suggested. So that is the plan now.
>>
>> So we will end up with something like:
>>
>>       if (!device_property_read_bool(dev, "disable-battery-power-supply")) {
>>               register(battery)...
>>       }
>>
>> > Or change bq24190_battery_desc.type to not be _BATTERY?
>>
>> That sounds like an ugly hack to me, the above will work fine, if you
>> want to you can move the bits you need to the charger power_supply
>> (as time permits) and then when they are all gone we can kill of the
>> battery one.
>
> From my understanding Liam's platform uses bq27xxx based fuel-gauge,
> so it also should not provide the bq24190-battery (since that would
> result in two battery devices being exposed for the same battery).
> So removing it seems to be the way to go.

Ya, let him hack battery_desc.type as a short-term workaround, and
I'll move the -battery properties to -charger in the patchset I'm
working on.

> Most of the properties should also be available from the fuel-gauge.
> I see two exceptions:
>
>  * The battery disable FET
>  * The battery temperature monitoring

I can just surface these in -charger. Is that a sin?

> If that is needed by any of your platforms, something like the
> API proposed by Hans to get properties from bq24190 into the
> fuel-gauge driver should be introduced. According to my
> understanding bq24190 checks temperature itself, so both
> features seem to be optional.

It sounds to me like the kernel needs a registry for all properties
associated with a certain power source, which forwards get/set
requests to the relevant driver method. That would also let userspace
extend a power source beyond what drivers provide.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-20 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-17  9:55 [PATCH 00/15] Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC support Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 01/15] mfd: Add Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC driver Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:00   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-20 10:41     ` Lee Jones
2017-03-20 12:55       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 02/15] ACPI / PMIC: Add opregion driver for Intel CHT Whiskey Cove PMIC Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 03/15] extcon: cht-wc: Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC extcon driver Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:18   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-20 18:08     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20  1:33   ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-03-20 13:00     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-21  3:54       ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-03-21  5:21         ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-03-21  6:27           ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-03-20 19:57     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-21  5:16       ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-03-23 15:22         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 04/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Add no_register_reset pdata flag Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:20   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [04/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:13     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18 18:51       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-18 22:51         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-19  0:57           ` Liam Breck
2017-03-19  8:22             ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-19  9:42               ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20  5:27                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-03-20 13:54                   ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20 17:04                     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20 17:51                       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-20 18:01                         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20 18:19                           ` Liam Breck
2017-03-20 19:22                             ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20 21:14                               ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-03-20 21:34                                 ` Liam Breck [this message]
2017-03-20 22:01                                 ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20 21:15                               ` Liam Breck
2017-03-19 14:54             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-19 18:13               ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 05/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Limit charging voltage to 4.3V Hans de Goede
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [05/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:24     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18 19:01       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 06/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Use i2c-core irq-mapping code Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-20  4:46     ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [06/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:16     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 07/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Add support for bq24192[i] Hans de Goede
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [07/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:30     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18 19:10       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-18 22:55         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 08/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Add support for external fuel gauge Hans de Goede
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [08/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:31     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18 19:18       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-18 23:02         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-19  1:01           ` Liam Breck
2017-03-19  3:52           ` Liam Breck
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 09/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Add voltage_max_design prop to battery Hans de Goede
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [09/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:34     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18 19:34       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-18 23:10         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20  5:12   ` [PATCH 09/15] " Sebastian Reichel
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 10/15] power: supply: bq24190_charger: Use extcon to determine ilimit, 5v boost Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:33   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-20 22:38     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18  7:10   ` [10/15] " Liam Breck
2017-03-18 14:42     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-18 19:57       ` Liam Breck
2017-03-18 23:11         ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20  4:52   ` [PATCH 10/15] " Sebastian Reichel
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 11/15] i2c: core: Allow getting ACPI info by index Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:35   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 12/15] i2c: core: Add new i2c_acpi_new_device helper function Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:37   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-22 15:59     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 13/15] i2c: core: Allow drivers to specify index for irq to get from of / ACPI Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:41   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-20  8:55   ` kbuild test robot
2017-03-20  8:55     ` kbuild test robot
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 14/15] power: supply: Add driver for Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove PMIC Fuel Gauge Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 17:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-22 17:03     ` Hans de Goede
2017-03-20  5:07   ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-03-17  9:55 ` [PATCH 15/15] i2c-cht-wc: Add Intel Cherry Trail Whiskey Cove SMBUS controller driver Hans de Goede
2017-03-17 18:22   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-03-23 13:58     ` Hans de Goede

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