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From: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
To: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] -ffreestanding/-fno-builtin-* patches
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:10:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKwvOd=BEwuHFeuskJ4gPOGLoXm98oXA18U=tTw981g+HdVz-w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200824173450.GA4157679@rani.riverdale.lan>

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:57:22AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> >
> >
> > To prevent transformation from foo() into bar(),
> > there are two ways in Clang to do that;
> > -fno-builtin-foo, and -fno-builtin-bar.
> > There is only one in GCC; -fno-buitin-foo.
> >
> > Is this correct?
> >
>
> It looked that way from previous experimentation, but...
>
> >
> >
> > I just played the optimization
> > from printf("helloworld\n") to puts("helloworld").
> >
> > https://godbolt.org/z/5s4ded
> >
> >
> > -fno-builtin-puts cannot prevent clang
> > from emitting puts.
> > Is it because clang does not support
> > -fno-builtin-puts?
>
> Ugh. clang doesn't have __builtin_puts() but it optimizes printf() into
> puts(). It doesn't have __builtin_putchar() but will optimize
> printf("c") into putchar('c').

Bah, merely a <strikethrough>flesh
wound</strikethrough><strikethrough>compiler bug</strikethrough>rather
long TODO in the compiler.
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/be2bc7d4cef2edd66c7fb74b70adf62fc68754db/clang/include/clang/Basic/Builtins.def#L943

Anyways, give me a week and I'll hack through the rest of them
https://reviews.llvm.org/D86508.  Certainly made HPA's point hit home,
that's a lot of functionality to implement or disable in an
environment.

Masahiro, are you implying that we shouldn't take the
-fno-builtin-stpcpy patch, because Clang is inconsistent? (That can be
fixed.) Even though -fno-builtin-stpcpy works here as intended?
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200817220212.338670-2-ndesaulniers@google.com/

Otherwise we need to provide an implementation of this symbol in the kernel.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200815020946.1538085-1-ndesaulniers@google.com/

Please, pick your poison.
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-25  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17 22:02 [PATCH 0/4] -ffreestanding/-fno-builtin-* patches Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-17 22:02 ` [PATCH 1/4] Makefile: add -fno-builtin-stpcpy Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-17 22:31   ` H. Peter Anvin
2020-08-17 23:36     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 19:21     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-18  7:10   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-18  7:25     ` Greg KH
2020-08-18  7:29       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-18  7:34         ` Greg KH
2020-08-18 19:23   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-17 22:02 ` [PATCH 2/4] Revert "lib/string.c: implement a basic bcmp" Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18  5:44   ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-08-18 18:00     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 19:24       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-17 22:02 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/boot: use -fno-builtin-bcmp Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 19:24   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-17 22:02 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86: don't build CONFIG_X86_32 as -ffreestanding Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 19:24   ` Kees Cook
2021-01-07  0:27   ` Fangrui Song
2022-04-07 15:34   ` [tip: x86/build] x86/build: Don't " tip-bot2 for Nick Desaulniers
2022-04-07 17:01     ` Nick Desaulniers
2022-04-07 22:28       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-08-17 22:44 ` [PATCH 0/4] -ffreestanding/-fno-builtin-* patches H. Peter Anvin
2020-08-18 17:56   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 19:02     ` H. Peter Anvin
2020-08-18 19:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-18 19:25         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 19:58           ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-19 12:19             ` Clement Courbet
2020-08-18 20:24         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-18 20:27           ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 20:58             ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 21:41               ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-18 21:51                 ` Dávid Bolvanský
2020-08-18 21:59                 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 22:05                   ` Dávid Bolvanský
2020-08-18 23:22                     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-20 14:56                 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-08-20 17:56                   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-20 18:05                     ` Dávid Bolvanský
2020-08-20 23:33                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-21 17:29                       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 17:54                         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-21 18:02                           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-21 19:14                             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 19:23                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-21 19:57                           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 20:03                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-21 21:39                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-08-22  0:12                               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-22 12:20                                 ` David Laight
2020-08-21  6:45                     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-08-24 15:57                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-24 17:34                   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-25  7:10                     ` Nick Desaulniers [this message]
2020-08-25  7:31                       ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-25 12:28                       ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-25 14:02                         ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-26 13:28                           ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-08-18 21:53               ` David Laight
2020-08-20 22:41               ` H. Peter Anvin
2020-08-20 23:17                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-18 19:35       ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 22:25 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-18 22:59   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-18 23:51     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-19  0:20     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-19  8:26   ` David Laight

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