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From: Arnon Warshavsky <arnon@qwilt.com>
To: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Cc: Bruce Richardson <bruce.richardson@intel.com>,
	"Wiles, Keith" <keith.wiles@intel.com>,
	Thomas Monjalon <thomas.monjalon@6wind.com>,
	Yuanhan Liu <yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com>,
	"dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
	"Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Christian Ehrhardt <christian.ehrhardt@canonical.com>,
	Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>,
	Olivier Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Yet another option for DPDK options
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 15:01:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKy9EB3ddPJo6qb6+WDiSb7aXdM61b0Sh1aQa5YrZE1s10hJdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160603115048.GA12627@hmsreliant.think-freely.org>

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 12:01:30PM +0100, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 11:29:43AM +0100, Bruce Richardson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:08:37PM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 07:41:10PM +0000, Wiles, Keith wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 6/2/16, 12:11 PM, "Neil Horman" <nhorman@tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >1) The definition of a config structure that can be passed to
> rte_eal_init,
> > > > > >defining the configuration for that running process
> > > > >
> > > > > Having a configuration structure means we have to have an ABI
> change to that structure anytime we add or remove an option. I was thinking
> a very simple DB of some kind would be better. Have the code query the DB
> to obtain the needed information. The APIs used to query and set the DB
> needs to be very easy to use as well.
> > > >
> > > > Thats a fair point.  A decent starting point is likely a simple
> struct that
> > > > looks like this:
> > > >
> > > > struct key_vals {
> > > >   char *key;
> > > >   union {
> > > >           ulong longval;
> > > >           void *ptrval;
> > > >   } value;
> > > > };
> > > >
> > > > struct config {
> > > >   size_t count;
> > > >   struct key_vals kvp[0];
> > > > };
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe each option can define its own structure if needed or just a
> simple variable type can be used for the basic types (int, string, bool, …)
> > > > >
> > > > Well, if you have config sections that require mulitiple elements,
> I'd handle
> > > > that with naming, i.e. if you have a config group that has an int
> and char
> > > > value, I'd name them "group.intval", and "group.charval", so they are
> > > > independently searchable, but linked from a nomenclature standpoint.
> > > >
> > > > > Would this work better in the long run, does a fixed structure
> still make sense?
> > > > >
> > > > No. I think you're ABI concerns are valid, but the above is likely a
> good
> > > > starting point to address them.
> > > >
> > > > Best
> > > > Neil
> > >
> > > I'll throw out one implementation idea here that I looked at
> previously, for
> > > the reason that it was simple enough implement with existing code.
> > >
> > > We already have the cfgfile library which works with name/value pairs
> read from
> > > ini files on disk. However, it would be easy enough to add couple of
> APIs to
> > > that to allow the user to "set" values inside an ini structure as
> well. With
> > > that done we can then just add a new eal_init api which takes a single
> > > "struct rte_cfgfile *" as parameter. For those apps that want to just
> use
> > > inifiles for configuration straight, they can then do:
> > >
> > > cfg = rte_cfgfile_load("my_cfg_file");
> > > rte_eal_newinit(cfg);
> > >
> > > Those who want a different config can instead do:
> > >
> > > cfg = rte_cfgfile_new();
> > > rte_cfgfile_add_section(cfg, "dpdk");
> > > foreach_eal_setting_wanted:
> > >     rte_cfgfile_set(cfg, "dpdk", mysetting, myvalue);
> > > rte_eal_newinit(cfg);
> > >
> > From chatting to a couple of other DPDK dev's here I suspect I may not
> have
> > been entirely clear here with this example. What is being shown above is
> building
> > up a "config-file" in memory - or rather a config structure which
> happens to
> > have the idea of sections and values as an ini file has. There is no
> actual
> > file ever being written to disk, and for those using any non-ini config
> file
> > structure for their app, the code overhead of using the APIs above
> should be
> > pretty much the same as building up any other set of key-value pairs in
> > memory to pass to an init function.
> >
> > Hope this is a little clearer now.
> >
> I'm fine with the idea of reusing the config file library that currently
> exists,
> or more to the point, modifying it to be usable as a configuration API,
> rather
> than a configuration file parser.  My primary interest is in separating
> the user
> configuration mechanism from the internal library configuration lookup
> mechanism.  What I would really like to be able to see is application
> developers
> have the flexibiilty to choose their own configuration method and format,
> and
> programatically build a configuration for the dpdk on a per-instance basis
> prior
> to calling rte_eal_init
>
> It seems like this approach satisfies that requirement
> Neil
>
>
If the there is no configuration structure , rather an opaque configuration
key/value store ,
the user applications can set and get knobs that are not seen by anyone
(library) that does not know them by name

e.g

int num_nodes = getCfgInt ( cfgObject , "eal" , "num_numa_nodes");
int delay = getCfgInt ( cfgObject , "drivers.ixgbe" , "some_delay");
setCfgInt (cfgObject , "my_app" , "num_days" , 7);
setCfgString (cfgObject , "my_app" , "best_day" , "Wednesday");

/Arnon

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-03 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-01 15:00 [RFC] Yet another option for DPDK options Wiles, Keith
2016-06-01 15:46 ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-01 16:08   ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-01 15:58 ` Jay Rolette
2016-06-01 16:18   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-01 16:21     ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-01 18:13     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-01 18:31     ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-06-03 10:07     ` Yerden Zhumabekov
2016-06-01 18:51 ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-02  9:19   ` Marc
2016-06-02  7:56 ` Yuanhan Liu
2016-06-02 10:41 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-02 13:19   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-06-02 13:53     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-02 17:11       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-02 19:33         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-02 19:41         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-02 20:08           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-02 20:53             ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-02 22:34               ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03  2:17                 ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03  9:57                   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 10:06                     ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 12:03                   ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 10:29             ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 11:01               ` Bruce Richardson
2016-06-03 11:50                 ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 12:01                   ` Arnon Warshavsky [this message]
2016-06-03 12:53                     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-03 14:31                       ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 16:04                         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 16:10                           ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 17:44                           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 18:29                             ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 18:38                               ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 18:52                                 ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 19:00                                   ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 19:07                                     ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 19:18                                       ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 19:23                                         ` Wiles, Keith
2016-06-03 19:28                                           ` Arnon Warshavsky
2016-06-03 21:42                                           ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03 21:41                                         ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-05  0:19                                           ` Neil Horman
2016-06-03 21:40                                       ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03 21:38                                   ` Matthew Hall
2016-06-03 12:14                   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-06-02 20:51           ` Matthew Hall

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