From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757146AbaC0SrD (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:47:03 -0400 Received: from mail-vc0-f170.google.com ([209.85.220.170]:59859 "EHLO mail-vc0-f170.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757069AbaC0SrA (ORCPT ); Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:47:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20140327182617.GC2526@jeremy-laptop> References: <53341D8E.80105@redhat.com> <20140327060225.4f4caa5a@ipyr.poochiereds.net> <53342258.8000304@redhat.com> <20140327070126.41ac75ac@ipyr.poochiereds.net> <20140327182617.GC2526@jeremy-laptop> From: Andy Lutomirski Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:46:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Thoughts on credential switching To: Jeremy Allison Cc: Jeff Layton , Florian Weimer , Jim Lieb , "Eric W. Biederman" , LSM List , "Serge E. Hallyn" , Kees Cook , Linux FS Devel , "Theodore Ts'o" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , bfields@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Jeremy Allison wrote: > > Amen to that :-). > > However, after talking with Jeff and Jim at CollabSummit, > I was 'encouraged' to make my opinions known on the list. > > To me, calling the creds handle a file descriptor just > feels wrong. IT *isn't* an fd, you can't read/write/poll > on it, and it's only done as a convenience to get the > close-on-exec semantics and the fact that the creds are > already hung off the fd's in kernel space. Windows calls these things "handles." Linux has "file descriptors," and there's plenty of precedent for things that aren't files. > > I'd rather any creads call use a different type, even if > it's a typedef of 'int -> creds_handle_t', just to make > it really clear it's *NOT* an fd. > > That way we can also make it clear this thing only has > meaning to a thread group, and SHOULD NOT (and indeed > preferably CAN NOT) be passed between processes. > If you want those semantics, then stick a struct pid * in there for the tgid of the cretor and make sure that current's tgid matches when you try to use it. I think they'd be more useful without that check, though. BTW, what do you want to have happen on fork? I think they should keep working. > Cheers, > > Jeremy. -- Andy Lutomirski AMA Capital Management, LLC