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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] procfs/tasks: add a simple per-task procfs hidepid= field
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:33:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrWEGLhEHO_6sTXreVyWFVsEeYmZSrLNNXx-ma5gd+nTQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEiveUfDvSoW9Hy2Y_uxU2YQ+vR8OvXMqRhxAANTGG7QaQbJeg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Cc linux-api
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Djalal Harouni <tixxdz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> From: Djalal Harouni <tixxdz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>
>> This adds a new per-task hidepid= flag that is honored by procfs when
>> presenting /proc to the user, in addition to the existing hidepid= mount
>> option. So far, hidepid= was exclusively a per-pidns setting. Locking
>> down a set of processes so that they cannot see other user's processes
>> without affecting the rest of the system thus currently requires
>> creation of a private PID namespace, with all the complexity it brings,
>> including maintaining a stub init process as PID 1 and losing the
>> ability to see processes of the same user on the rest of the system.
>>
>> With this patch all acesss and visibility checks in procfs now
>> honour two fields:
>>
>>         a) the existing hide_pid field in the PID namespace
>>         b) the new hide_pid in struct task_struct
>>
>> Access/visibility is only granted if both fields permit it; the more
>> restrictive one wins. By default the new task_struct hide_pid value
>> defaults to 0, which means behaviour is not changed from the status quo.
>>
>> Setting the per-process hide_pid value is done via a new PR_SET_HIDEPID
>> prctl() option which takes the same three supported values as the
>> hidepid= mount option. The per-process hide_pid may only be increased,
>> never decreased, thus ensuring that once applied, processes can never
>> escape such a hide_pid jail.  When a process forks it inherits its
>> parent's hide_pid value.
>>
>> Suggested usecase: let's say nginx runs as user "www-data". After
>> dropping privileges it may now call:
>>
>>         …
>>         prctl(PR_SET_HIDEPID, 2);
>>         …
>>
>> And from that point on neither nginx itself, nor any of its child
>> processes may see processes in /proc anymore that belong to a different
>> user than "www-data". Other services running on the same system remain
>> unaffected.

What affect, if any, does this have on ptrace() permissions?

Also, this one-way thing seems wrong to me.  I think it should roughly
follow the no_new_privs rules instead.  IOW, if you unshare your
pidns, it gets cleared.  Also, maybe you shouldn't be able to set it
without either having CAP_SYS_ADMIN over your userns or having
no_new_privs set.

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-17 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-16 13:23 [PATCH v4 0/2] procfs/tasks: introduce per-task procfs hidepid= field Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 13:23 ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] procfs: use an enum for possible hidepid values Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 13:23   ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-02-13 22:16   ` Kees Cook
2017-02-13 22:16     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2017-02-15  0:34     ` Andrew Morton
2017-02-15  0:34       ` [kernel-hardening] " Andrew Morton
2017-02-15  8:56       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-15  8:56         ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 13:23 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] procfs/tasks: add a simple per-task procfs hidepid= field Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 13:23   ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 17:12   ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-16 17:12     ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
     [not found]   ` <1484572984-13388-3-git-send-email-djalal-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-16 17:15     ` Djalal Harouni
     [not found]       ` <CAEiveUfDvSoW9Hy2Y_uxU2YQ+vR8OvXMqRhxAANTGG7QaQbJeg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-17 20:33         ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2017-01-18 22:50           ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-18 22:50             ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-18 23:35             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-18 23:35               ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-18 23:35               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-19 13:53               ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-19 13:53                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-19 13:53                 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-19 19:52                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-19 19:52                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-19 19:52                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-20 15:56                   ` Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-01-20 15:56                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-01-20 15:56                     ` Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-01-20 16:33                   ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-20 16:33                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-20 16:33                     ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-21  0:53                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-21  0:53                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-21  0:53                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-23 11:46                       ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-23 11:46                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-23 11:46                         ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-23 20:07                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-23 20:07                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-23 20:07                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-26 13:20                           ` Djalal Harouni
2017-01-26 13:20                             ` [kernel-hardening] " Djalal Harouni
2017-01-26 13:20                             ` Djalal Harouni
2017-02-10 14:40                       ` Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-02-10 14:40                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-02-10 14:40                         ` Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-02-10 16:18                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-10 16:18                           ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-10 16:18                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-20 15:44               ` Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-01-20 15:44                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-01-20 15:44                 ` Lafcadio Wluiki
2017-02-10 23:44               ` Kees Cook
2017-02-10 23:44                 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2017-02-10 23:44                 ` Kees Cook
2017-02-13 19:01                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-13 19:01                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-13 19:01                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-13 19:15                   ` Kees Cook
2017-02-13 19:15                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2017-02-13 19:15                     ` Kees Cook
2017-02-14  4:11                     ` Christian Kujau
2017-02-14  4:11                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Christian Kujau
2017-02-14  4:11                       ` Christian Kujau
2017-01-16 18:24   ` [kernel-hardening] " Daniel Micay
2017-01-17  9:54     ` Lafcadio Wluiki

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