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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list:MIPS" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] lib: vdso: move call to fallback out of common code.
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 18:24:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXWHk9J-pYm+eopMuW3x7Jr_LnzRjr94gq8g66xOO6SBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de073962c1a5911343e13c183fbbdef0fe95449e.1577111365.git.christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 6:31 AM Christophe Leroy
<christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> wrote:
>
> On powerpc, VDSO functions and syscalls cannot be implemented in C
> because the Linux kernel ABI requires that CR[SO] bit is set in case
> of error and cleared when no error.
>
> As this cannot be done in C, C VDSO functions and syscall'based
> fallback need a trampoline in ASM.
>
> By moving the fallback calls out of the common code, arches like
> powerpc can implement both the call to C VDSO and the fallback call
> in a single trampoline function.

Maybe the issue is that I'm not a powerpc person, but I don't
understand this.  The common vDSO code is in C.  Presumably this means
that you need an asm trampoline no matter what to call the C code.  Is
the improvement that, with this change, you can have the asm
trampoline do a single branch, so it's logically:

ret = [call the C code];
if (ret == 0) {
 set success bit;
} else {
 ret = fallback;
 if (ret == 0)
  set success bit;
else
  set failure bit;
}

return ret;

instead of:

ret = [call the C code, which includes the fallback];
if (ret == 0)
  set success bit;
else
  set failure bit;

It's not obvious to me that the former ought to be faster.

>
> The two advantages are:
> - No need play back and forth with CR[SO] and negative return value.
> - No stack frame is required in VDSO C functions for the fallbacks.

How is no stack frame required?  Do you mean that the presence of the
fallback causes worse code generation?  Can you improve the fallback
instead?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:MIPS" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] lib: vdso: move call to fallback out of common code.
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 18:24:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXWHk9J-pYm+eopMuW3x7Jr_LnzRjr94gq8g66xOO6SBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de073962c1a5911343e13c183fbbdef0fe95449e.1577111365.git.christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 6:31 AM Christophe Leroy
<christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> wrote:
>
> On powerpc, VDSO functions and syscalls cannot be implemented in C
> because the Linux kernel ABI requires that CR[SO] bit is set in case
> of error and cleared when no error.
>
> As this cannot be done in C, C VDSO functions and syscall'based
> fallback need a trampoline in ASM.
>
> By moving the fallback calls out of the common code, arches like
> powerpc can implement both the call to C VDSO and the fallback call
> in a single trampoline function.

Maybe the issue is that I'm not a powerpc person, but I don't
understand this.  The common vDSO code is in C.  Presumably this means
that you need an asm trampoline no matter what to call the C code.  Is
the improvement that, with this change, you can have the asm
trampoline do a single branch, so it's logically:

ret = [call the C code];
if (ret == 0) {
 set success bit;
} else {
 ret = fallback;
 if (ret == 0)
  set success bit;
else
  set failure bit;
}

return ret;

instead of:

ret = [call the C code, which includes the fallback];
if (ret == 0)
  set success bit;
else
  set failure bit;

It's not obvious to me that the former ought to be faster.

>
> The two advantages are:
> - No need play back and forth with CR[SO] and negative return value.
> - No stack frame is required in VDSO C functions for the fallbacks.

How is no stack frame required?  Do you mean that the presence of the
fallback causes worse code generation?  Can you improve the fallback
instead?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:MIPS" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] lib: vdso: move call to fallback out of common code.
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2019 18:24:05 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrXWHk9J-pYm+eopMuW3x7Jr_LnzRjr94gq8g66xOO6SBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de073962c1a5911343e13c183fbbdef0fe95449e.1577111365.git.christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 6:31 AM Christophe Leroy
<christophe.leroy@c-s.fr> wrote:
>
> On powerpc, VDSO functions and syscalls cannot be implemented in C
> because the Linux kernel ABI requires that CR[SO] bit is set in case
> of error and cleared when no error.
>
> As this cannot be done in C, C VDSO functions and syscall'based
> fallback need a trampoline in ASM.
>
> By moving the fallback calls out of the common code, arches like
> powerpc can implement both the call to C VDSO and the fallback call
> in a single trampoline function.

Maybe the issue is that I'm not a powerpc person, but I don't
understand this.  The common vDSO code is in C.  Presumably this means
that you need an asm trampoline no matter what to call the C code.  Is
the improvement that, with this change, you can have the asm
trampoline do a single branch, so it's logically:

ret = [call the C code];
if (ret == 0) {
 set success bit;
} else {
 ret = fallback;
 if (ret == 0)
  set success bit;
else
  set failure bit;
}

return ret;

instead of:

ret = [call the C code, which includes the fallback];
if (ret == 0)
  set success bit;
else
  set failure bit;

It's not obvious to me that the former ought to be faster.

>
> The two advantages are:
> - No need play back and forth with CR[SO] and negative return value.
> - No stack frame is required in VDSO C functions for the fallbacks.

How is no stack frame required?  Do you mean that the presence of the
fallback causes worse code generation?  Can you improve the fallback
instead?

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-24  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-23 14:31 [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] powerpc/32: switch VDSO to C implementation Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] lib: vdso: ensure all arches have 32bit fallback Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-24  2:07   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-01-10 20:56     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 20:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 20:56       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 21:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-01-10 21:02         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-01-10 21:02         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-25  2:05   ` kbuild test robot
2019-12-25  6:01   ` kbuild test robot
2019-12-30 12:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-12-30 12:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-12-30 12:27     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-02 11:29     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-02 11:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-02 11:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-09 15:43       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-09 15:43         ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-09 15:43         ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] lib: vdso: move call to fallback out of common code Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-24  2:24   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-12-24  2:24     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:24     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 11:41     ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 11:41       ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 11:41       ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 12:09       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:09         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:09         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-25  2:19   ` kbuild test robot
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] lib: vdso: Change __cvdso_clock_gettime/getres_common() to __cvdso_clock_gettime/getres() Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] lib: vdso: get pointer to vdso data from the arch Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-24  2:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 11:53     ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 11:53       ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 11:53       ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 12:15       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:15         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:15         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:41           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:41           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 14:46         ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-24 14:46           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-24 14:46           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] lib: vdso: inline do_hres() Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-24  2:29   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:29     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  2:29     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-30 12:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-12-30 12:07     ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-12-30 12:07     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-10 21:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 21:07       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 21:07       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-11  9:06       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-11  9:06         ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-11  9:06         ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] lib: vdso: make do_coarse() return 0 Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] lib: vdso: don't use READ_ONCE() in __c_kernel_time() Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-24  1:58   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  1:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  1:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 11:12     ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 11:12       ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 11:12       ` christophe leroy
2019-12-24 12:04       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:04         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24 12:04         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-01-10 21:12   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 21:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-10 21:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-11  8:05     ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-11  8:05       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-11  8:05       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-11 11:07       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-11 11:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-11 11:07         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-01-13  6:52         ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-13  6:52           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-13  6:52           ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] lib: vdso: Avoid duplication in __cvdso_clock_getres() Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-24  1:59   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  1:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-24  1:59     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] powerpc/vdso32: inline __get_datapage() Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] powerpc/32: Switch VDSO to C implementation Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-23 14:31   ` Christophe Leroy
2019-12-25  6:54   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-09 17:52 ` Surprising code generated for vdso_read_begin() Christophe Leroy
2020-01-09 20:07   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-09 20:07     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-09 20:07     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-10  6:45     ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-10  6:45       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-10  6:45       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-01-11 11:33       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-11 11:33         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-01-11 11:33         ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-02-16 18:10         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-16 18:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-16 18:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-19  8:45           ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-19  8:45             ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-19  8:45             ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-19  9:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-19  9:52               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-19  9:52               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-02-19 13:08               ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-02-19 13:08                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-02-19 13:08                 ` Segher Boessenkool

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