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From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Cc: like.xu.linux@gmail.com, eranian@google.com,
	santosh.shukla@amd.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, seanjc@google.com,
	wanpengli@tencent.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, joro@8bytes.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, ananth.narayan@amd.com,
	kim.phillips@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] perf/amd: Implement erratum #1292 workaround for F19h M00-0Fh
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 09:55:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eS72bhP=hGJRzTwGxG9XrijEnGKnJ-pqtHxYG-5Shs+2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c97e081-ae46-d92d-fe8f-58642d6b773e@amd.com>

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 9:18 PM Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> On 03-Feb-22 9:39 AM, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 2:52 AM Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Perf counter may overcount for a list of Retire Based Events. Implement
> >> workaround for Zen3 Family 19 Model 00-0F processors as suggested in
> >> Revision Guide[1]:
> >>
> >>   To count the non-FP affected PMC events correctly:
> >>     o Use Core::X86::Msr::PERF_CTL2 to count the events, and
> >>     o Program Core::X86::Msr::PERF_CTL2[43] to 1b, and
> >>     o Program Core::X86::Msr::PERF_CTL2[20] to 0b.
> >>
> >> Note that the specified workaround applies only to counting events and
> >> not to sampling events. Thus sampling event will continue functioning
> >> as is.
> >>
> >> Although the issue exists on all previous Zen revisions, the workaround
> >> is different and thus not included in this patch.
> >>
> >> This patch needs Like's patch[2] to make it work on kvm guest.
> >
> > IIUC, this patch along with Like's patch actually breaks PMU
> > virtualization for a kvm guest.
> >
> > Suppose I have some code which counts event 0xC2 [Retired Branch
> > Instructions] on PMC0 and event 0xC4 [Retired Taken Branch
> > Instructions] on PMC1. I then divide PMC1 by PMC0 to see what
> > percentage of my branch instructions are taken. On hardware that
> > suffers from erratum 1292, both counters may overcount, but if the
> > inaccuracy is small, then my final result may still be fairly close to
> > reality.
> >
> > With these patches, if I run that same code in a kvm guest, it looks
> > like one of those events will be counted on PMC2 and the other won't
> > be counted at all. So, when I calculate the percentage of branch
> > instructions taken, I either get 0 or infinity.
>
> Events get multiplexed internally. See below quick test I ran inside
> guest. My host is running with my+Like's patch and guest is running
> with only my patch.

Your guest may be multiplexing the counters. The guest I posited does not.

I hope that you are not saying that kvm's *thread-pinned* perf events
are not being multiplexed at the host level, because that completely
breaks PMU virtualization.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-17  5:57 [PATCH] KVM: x86/pmu: Clear reserved bit PERF_CTL2[43] for AMD erratum 1292 Like Xu
2022-02-02  4:28 ` [PATCH] perf/amd: Implement errata #1292 workaround for F19h M00-0Fh Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-02  5:27   ` Stephane Eranian
2022-02-02  6:02     ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-02  6:16       ` Stephane Eranian
2022-02-02  6:32         ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-02 10:51           ` [PATCH v2] perf/amd: Implement erratum " Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-02 14:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-02 15:32               ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-03  9:58                 ` [PATCH v3] " Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-09 12:51                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-10  4:05                     ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-10  8:46                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-03  4:09             ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Mattson
2022-02-03  5:18               ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-03 17:55                 ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2022-02-04  9:32                   ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-04 13:01                     ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-09 10:18                       ` Like Xu
2022-02-09 21:40                         ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-10  4:06                           ` Ravi Bangoria
2022-02-10 13:56                             ` Like Xu

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