From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1947766AbcHRNQT (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:16:19 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.136]:57396 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1947139AbcHRNQN (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:16:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160818102208.GA20476@kroah.com> References: <20160818011445.22726-1-robh@kernel.org> <20160818102208.GA20476@kroah.com> From: Rob Herring Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:15:02 -0500 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] UART slave device bus To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Marcel Holtmann , Jiri Slaby , Sebastian Reichel , Pavel Machek , Peter Hurley , NeilBrown , "Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller" , Arnd Bergmann , Linus Walleij , linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, "linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 08:14:42PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote: >> Currently, devices attached via a UART are not well supported in the >> kernel. The problem is the device support is done in tty line disciplines, >> various platform drivers to handle some sideband, and in userspace with >> utilities such as hciattach. >> >> There have been several attempts to improve support, but they suffer from >> still being tied into the tty layer and/or abusing the platform bus. This >> is a prototype to show creating a proper UART bus for UART devices. It is >> tied into the serial core (really struct uart_port) below the tty layer >> in order to use existing serial drivers. >> >> This is functional with minimal testing using the loopback driver and >> pl011 (w/o DMA) UART under QEMU (modified to add a DT node for the slave >> device). It still needs lots of work and polish. >> >> TODOs: >> - Figure out the port locking. mutex plus spinlock plus refcounting? I'm >> hoping all that complexity is from the tty layer and not needed here. > > It should be. > >> - Split out the controller for uart_ports into separate driver. Do we see >> a need for controller drivers that are not standard serial drivers? > > What do you mean by "controller" drivers here? I didn't understand them > in the code. The host uart driver. It's basically a wrapper around struct uart_port, but may need to evolve to have its own ops if we want to make using struct uart_port for driver. Maybe host would be a better name. >> - Implement/test the removal paths >> - Fix the receive callbacks for more than character at a time (i.e. DMA) >> - Need better receive buffering than just a simple circular buffer or >> perhaps a different receive interface (e.g. direct to client buffer)? > > Why? Is the code as-is slow? No, the code should be fast as it is so simple. I assume there is some reason the tty buffering is more complex than just a circular buffer. My best guess is because the tty layer has to buffer things for userspace and userspace can be slow to read? Do line disciplines make assumptions about the tty buffering? Is 4KB enough buffering? Also, the current receive implementation has no concept of blocking or timeout. Should the uart_dev_rx() function return when there's no more data or wait (with timeout) until all requested data is received? (Probably do all of them is my guess). > >> - Test with other UART drivers >> - Convert a real driver/line discipline over to UART bus. > > That's going to be the real test, I recommend trying that as soon as > possible as it will show where the real pain points are :) > >> Before I spend more time on this, I'm looking mainly for feedback on the >> general direction and structure (the interface with the existing serial >> drivers in particular). > > Yes, I like the idea (minor nit, you still have SPMI in a lot of places > instead of UART), so I recommend keeping going with it. > >> drivers/uart/Kconfig | 17 ++ >> drivers/uart/Makefile | 3 + >> drivers/uart/core.c | 458 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> drivers/uart/loopback.c | 72 ++++++ > > Why not just put this in drivers/tty/uart/ ? Because it has nothing to do with the tty layer. If anything, I think the direction would be move drivers/tty/serial/ to drivers/uart/ (didn't they used to be in drivers/serial/? :)) i'm not proposing we do that though. Rob