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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"open list:MEDIA DRIVERS FOR RENESAS - FCP"
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/13] devicetree/bindings: display: Document common panel properties
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 09:38:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL_JsqKBoAJFiOqNhMPzF5VXjdXT2jbWHV0zxfX0gdSz0yGZLQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2900223.pppRAbRhe6@avalon>

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Laurent Pinchart
<laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 20:23:41 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> On Tuesday 29 Nov 2016 09:14:09 Rob Herring wrote:
>> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:27 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> >> On Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 11:36:55 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> >>> On Monday 21 Nov 2016 10:48:15 Rob Herring wrote:
>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 05:28:01AM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
>> >>>>> Document properties common to several display panels in a central
>> >>>>> location that can be referenced by the panel device tree bindings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Looks good. Just one comment...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [...]
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> +Connectivity
>> >>>>> +------------
>> >>>>> +
>> >>>>> +- ports: Panels receive video data through one or multiple
>> >>>>> connections. While
>> >>>>> +  the nature of those connections is specific to the panel type, the
>> >>>>> +  connectivity is expressed in a standard fashion using ports as
>> >>>>> specified in
>> >>>>> +  the device graph bindings defined in
>> >>>>> +  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/graph.txt.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We allow panels to either use graph binding or be a child of the
>> >>>> display controller.
>> >>>
>> >>> I knew that some display controllers use a phandle to the panel (see
>> >>> the fsl,panel and nvidia,panel properties), but I didn't know we had
>> >>> panels as children of display controller nodes. I don't think we should
>> >>> allow that for anything but DSI panels, as the DT hierarchy is based on
>> >>> control buses. Are you sure we have other panels instantiated through
>> >>> that mechanism ?
>> >
>> > Some panels have no control bus, so were do we place them?
>>
>> I'd say under the root node, like all similar control-less devices.
>>
>> > I would say the hierarchy is based on buses with a preference for the
>> > control bus when there are multiple buses. I'm not a fan of just sticking
>> > things are the top level.
>>
>> OK, so much for my comment a few lines up :-)
>>
>> The problem with placing non-DSI panels as children of the display
>> controller and not using OF graph is that the panel bindings become
>> dependent of the display controller being used. A display controller using
>> OF graph would require the panel to do the same, while a display controller
>> expecting a panel child node (with a specific name) would require DT
>> properties for the panel node.

Not sure I follow. They become dependent on the controller driver to
probe the panel, but the contents of the panel node would not be
controller dependent.

>> I'm also not sure the complexity of OF graph is really that prohibitive if
>> you compare it to panels as child nodes. To get the panel driver to bind to
>> the panel DT node the display controller driver would need to create a
>> platform device for the panel and register it. That's not very difficult,
>> but parsing a single port and endpoint isn't either (and we could even
>> provide a helper function for that, a version of of_drm_find_panel() that
>> would take as an argument the display controller device node instead of the
>> panel device node).
>
> Ping ?
>
> I'd like to standardize on one model for panel DT bindings, but I'm not sure
> that can be achieved given that we already have multiple competing models. In
> any case, is that blocking to merge this patch ? I only describe one
> connectivity model here as that's what my panel driver needs, but I have no
> issue adding more models later when needed. I believe this patch is a good
> step forward already.

It is an improvement which I appreciate, so yes I guess we can address
it later when needed.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-19 15:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-19  3:28 [PATCH v2 00/13] R-Car DU: Add support for LVDS mode selection Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] devicetree/bindings: display: Document common panel properties Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-21 16:48   ` Rob Herring
2016-11-22  9:36     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-22  9:36       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-29  8:27       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-29 15:14         ` Rob Herring
2016-11-29 15:14           ` Rob Herring
2016-11-29 18:23           ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-29 18:23             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-18 20:54             ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-19 15:38               ` Rob Herring [this message]
2016-12-19 16:54                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-03 22:33                   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-03 22:33                     ` Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <1479526093-7014-2-git-send-email-laurent.pinchart+renesas-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-22 11:05     ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-22 11:05       ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-22 13:14       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-22 13:14         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-22 21:10       ` Rob Herring
2017-04-09 11:47     ` Emil Velikov
2017-04-09 11:47       ` Emil Velikov
2017-04-11  5:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] devicetree/bindings: display: Add bindings for LVDS panels Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]   ` <1479526093-7014-3-git-send-email-laurent.pinchart+renesas-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-21 16:48     ` Rob Herring
2016-11-21 16:48       ` Rob Herring
2016-11-22 11:02     ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-22 11:02       ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-22 13:21       ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found] ` <1479526093-7014-1-git-send-email-laurent.pinchart+renesas-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-19  3:28   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] devicetree/bindings: display: Add bindings for two Mitsubishi panels Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-21 16:49     ` Rob Herring
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] drm: Add data mirror bus flag Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-18 20:31   ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-20 13:01     ` Stefan Agner
2016-12-20 13:21       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-20 13:21         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-20 13:31         ` Stefan Agner
2017-01-04  0:39           ` [PATCH v2.1 04/13] drm: Add data transmission order " Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  0:39             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  7:06             ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-04  7:06               ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-04 11:58               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04 11:58                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] drm: panels: Constify device node argument to of_drm_find_panel() Laurent Pinchart
2016-12-18 20:57   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  7:09   ` Thierry Reding
2017-01-04  7:09     ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] drm: panels: Add LVDS panel driver Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-22 11:14   ` Thierry Reding
2016-11-22 13:17     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-11 22:46       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-11 22:46         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] arm64: dts: r8a7795: Add PWM support Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-21  8:27   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-21  8:27     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-21  9:18     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  1:06       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  9:01         ` Simon Horman
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] arm64: dts: r8a7795: salvator-x: Add DU LVDS output endpoint Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  1:07   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-04  9:08     ` Simon Horman
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] arm64: dts: r8a7795: salvator-x: Add panel backlight support Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-21  8:36   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-21  9:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-21  9:23       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-21  9:59         ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-21  9:59           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-05  8:45           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-05  8:45             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-05  8:55             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-05  8:55               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-05 18:21               ` Simon Horman
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] ARM: shmobile: dts: Switch to panel-lvds bindings for Mitsubishi panels Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] drm: rcar-du: Switch to encoder .atomic_mode_set() helper function Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] drm: rcar-du: Use the DRM panel API Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-19  3:28 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] drm: rcar-du: Add support for LVDS mode selection Laurent Pinchart

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