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From: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: Consider subtrees in memory.events
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 11:37:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALvZod65htZmApWkv-MrAjg6V1OGBLmdyFP_030LARD7ajS3mw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190130193026.GA21410@cmpxchg.org>

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:30 AM Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 02:27:12PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:11:44AM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > Hi Tejun,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:07 AM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, Michal.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 05:50:58PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > > Yeah, cgroup.events and .stat files as some of the local stats would
> > > > > > be useful too, so if we don't flip memory.events we'll end up with sth
> > > > > > like cgroup.events.local, memory.events.tree and memory.stats.local,
> > > > > > which is gonna be hilarious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why cannot we simply have memory.events_tree and be done with it? Sure
> > > > > the file names are not goin to be consistent which is a minus but that
> > > > > ship has already sailed some time ago.
> > > >
> > > > Because the overall cost of shitty interface will be way higher in the
> > > > longer term.  cgroup2 interface is far from perfect but is way better
> > > > than cgroup1 especially for the memory controller.  Why do you think
> > > > that is?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I thought you are fine with the separate interface for the hierarchical events.
> >
> > Every other file in cgroup2 is hierarchical, but for recursive
> > memory.events you'd need to read memory.events_tree?
> >
> > Do we hate our users that much? :(
>
> FTR, I would be okay with adding .local versions to existing files
> where such a behavior could be useful. But that seems to be a separate
> discussion from fixing memory.events here.

Oh ok, the dispute is on the name of the interface. I am fine with
whatever the decision is made as we (Google) are still not using these
interfaces. However what's the way forward here?

thanks,
Shakeel

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-30 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-23 22:31 [PATCH 2/2] mm: Consider subtrees in memory.events Chris Down
2019-01-24  0:24 ` Roman Gushchin
2019-01-24  1:03   ` Chris Down
2019-01-24  8:22 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-24 15:21   ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-24 15:51     ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-24 16:00   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-24 17:01     ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-24 18:23       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-25  8:42         ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-25 16:51           ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-25 17:37             ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-25 17:37               ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-25 18:28               ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-28 12:51                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-28 14:28                   ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-28 14:52                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-28 14:54                       ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-28 15:18                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-28 15:41                           ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-28 17:05                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-28 17:49                               ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-29 14:43                                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-29 14:52                                   ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-30 16:50                                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-30 17:06                                       ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-30 17:41                                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-30 17:52                                           ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-30 18:16                                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-30 19:11                                         ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-30 19:11                                           ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-30 19:27                                           ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-30 19:30                                             ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-30 19:37                                               ` Shakeel Butt [this message]
2019-01-30 19:37                                                 ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-30 19:23                   ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-30 20:05                     ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-30 21:31                       ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-31  8:58                         ` Michal Hocko
2019-01-31 16:22                           ` Johannes Weiner
2019-02-01 10:27                             ` Michal Hocko
2019-02-01 16:34                               ` Johannes Weiner
2019-01-28 15:59                 ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-28 15:59                   ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-28 16:05                   ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-28 16:08                     ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-28 16:08                       ` Shakeel Butt
2019-01-28 16:12                       ` Tejun Heo
2019-01-28 14:30 ` Tejun Heo
2019-02-08 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Rename ambiguously named memory.stat counters and functions Chris Down
2019-02-08 22:44   ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm: Consider subtrees in memory.events Chris Down
2019-02-11 19:01     ` Johannes Weiner
2019-02-11 18:55   ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm: Rename ambiguously named memory.stat counters and functions Johannes Weiner

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