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From: David Marchand <david.marchand@6wind.com>
To: "Tan, Jianfeng" <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>, Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] eal: add option --avail-cores to detect lcores
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 14:46:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALwxeUvcBDrmUfz-FA1icHAkj25HtniDqa2DNaKU8k6V89OD4Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56E01F94.2060906@redhat.com>

Hello Jianfeng,

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Panu Matilainen <pmatilai@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 03/08/2016 07:38 PM, Tan, Jianfeng wrote:
>>
>> Hi Panu,
>>
>> On 3/8/2016 4:54 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/04/2016 12:05 PM, Jianfeng Tan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This patch adds option, --avail-cores, to use lcores which are available
>>>> by calling pthread_getaffinity_np() to narrow down detected cores before
>>>> parsing coremask (-c), corelist (-l), and coremap (--lcores).
>>>>
>>>> Test example:
>>>> $ taskset 0xc0000 ./examples/helloworld/build/helloworld \
>>>>         --avail-cores -m 1024
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jianfeng Tan <jianfeng.tan@intel.com>
>>>> Acked-by: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, to me this sounds like something that should be done always so
>>> there's no need for an option. Or if there's a chance it might do the
>>> wrong thing in some rare circumstance then perhaps there should be a
>>> disabler option instead?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for comments.
>>
>> Yes, there's a use case that we cannot handle.
>>
>> If we make it as default, DPDK applications may fail to start, when user
>> specifies a core in isolcpus and its parent process (say bash) has a
>> cpuset affinity that excludes isolcpus. Originally, DPDK applications
>> just blindly do pthread_setaffinity_np() and it always succeeds because
>> it always has root privilege to change any cpu affinity.
>>
>> Now, if we do the checking in rte_eal_cpu_init(), those lcores will be
>> flagged as undetected (in my older implementation) and leads to failure.
>> To make it correct, we would always add "taskset mask" (or other ways)
>> before DPDK application cmd lines.
>>
>> How do you think?
>
>
> I still think it sounds like something that should be done by default and
> maybe be overridable with some flag, rather than the other way around.
> Another alternative might be detecting the cores always but if running as
> root, override but with a warning.
>
> But I dont know, just wondering. To look at it from another angle: why would
> somebody use this new --avail-cores option and in what situation, if things
> "just work" otherwise anyway?

+1 and I don't even see why we should have an option to disable this,
since taskset would do the job.

Looking at your special case, if the user did set an isolcpus option
for another use, with no -c/-l, I understand the dpdk application
won't care too much about it.
So, this seems like somehow rude to the rest of the system and unwanted.

We can still help the user starting its application as root (without
taskset) by adding a warning message if a requested cpu (-c / -l ..)
is not part of the available cpus.


-- 
David Marchand

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-18 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-24 18:49 [RFC] eal: add cgroup-aware resource self discovery Jianfeng Tan
2016-01-25 13:46 ` Neil Horman
2016-01-26  2:22   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-01-26 14:19     ` Neil Horman
2016-01-27 12:02       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-01-27 17:30         ` Neil Horman
2016-01-29 11:22 ` [PATCH] eal: make resource initialization more robust Jianfeng Tan
2016-02-01 18:08   ` Neil Horman
2016-02-22  6:08   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-02-22 13:18     ` Neil Horman
2016-02-28 21:12   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-02-29  1:50     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-04 10:05 ` [PATCH] eal: add option --avail-cores to detect lcores Jianfeng Tan
2016-03-08  8:54   ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-08 17:38     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-09 13:05       ` Panu Matilainen
2016-03-09 13:53         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-09 14:01           ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-03-09 14:17             ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-09 14:44               ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-03-09 14:55                 ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-09 15:17                   ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-03-09 17:45                     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-09 19:33                       ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2016-03-10  1:36                         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-05-18 12:46         ` David Marchand [this message]
2016-05-19  2:25           ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-06-30 13:43             ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-07-01  0:52               ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-04-26 12:39   ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-03-04 10:58 ` [PATCH] eal: make hugetlb initialization more robust Jianfeng Tan
2016-03-08  1:42   ` [PATCH v2] " Jianfeng Tan
2016-03-08  8:46     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-05-04 11:07     ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2016-05-04 11:28       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-05-04 12:25     ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2016-05-09 10:48   ` [PATCH v3] " Jianfeng Tan
2016-05-10  8:54     ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2016-05-10  9:11       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-05-12  0:44   ` [PATCH v4] " Jianfeng Tan
2016-05-17 16:39     ` David Marchand
2016-05-18  7:56       ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2016-05-18  9:34         ` David Marchand
2016-05-19  2:00       ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-05-17 16:40     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-05-18  8:06       ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2016-05-18  9:38         ` David Marchand
2016-05-19  2:11         ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-05-31  3:37 ` [PATCH v5] eal: fix allocating all free hugepages Jianfeng Tan
2016-06-06  2:49   ` Pei, Yulong
2016-06-08 11:27   ` Sergio Gonzalez Monroy
2016-06-30 13:34     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-08-31  3:07 ` [PATCH v2] eal: restrict cores detection Jianfeng Tan
2016-08-31 15:30   ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-09-01  1:15     ` Tan, Jianfeng
2016-09-01  1:31 ` [PATCH v3] " Jianfeng Tan
2016-09-02 16:53   ` Bruce Richardson
2016-09-16 14:04     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-09-16 14:02   ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-12-02 17:48   ` [PATCH v4] eal: restrict cores auto detection Jianfeng Tan
2016-12-08 18:19     ` Thomas Monjalon
2016-12-09 15:14       ` Bruce Richardson
2016-12-21 14:31         ` Thomas Monjalon

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