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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "Elijah Newren" <newren@gmail.com>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Vít Ondruch" <vondruch@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Henrie" <alexhenrie24@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Philip Oakley" <philipoakley@iee.email>,
	"Theodore Y . Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Jacob Keller" <jacob.keller@gmail.com>,
	"John Keeping" <john@keeping.me.uk>,
	"Richard Hansen" <rhansen@rhansen.org>,
	"Brian M. Carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>,
	"W. Trevor King" <wking@tremily.us>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/14] pull: improve default warning
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 13:09:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s2nmVnXiBA8S=vHBZznuRNKKe=xGOEBJ80MYhA_XCqNkg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpn3lbhxn.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 12:16 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > When the user has specified "pull.mode=ff-only", the command dies with:
> >
> >   The pull was not fast-forward, please either merge or rebase.
> >
> > When the user has not specified any mode (by default), the command
> > would output a warning:
> >
> >   The pull was not fast-forward, in the future you will have to choose a
> >   merge, or a rebase.
>
> I quite don't get it.  They say the same thing.  At that point the
> user needs to choose between merge and rebase to move forward and
> ff-only would not be a sensible choice to offer the user.

The error happens *only* when the user has explicitly set
"pull.mode=ff-only", and the pull dies. At that point; yes, the user
must choose between one or the other.

But the warning happens by default, when the user has not chosen any
mode, and the pull succeeds. The user doesn't need to choose; the pull
continues as if the user chose the "merge" mode, which is the historic
behavior.

They start by saying the same thing. But one errors out and says the
user must choose, and the other warns that in the future the user must
choose.

> > Just to put this series in context: it's only part 1; it does not
> > introduce pull.mode, and it doesn't make --ff-only the default.
>
> I'd view the "in a non-fast-forward situation, the warning kicks in
> to those who haven't chosen between merge and rebase (i.e. no
> pull.rebase set to either true or false, and pull.ff not set to
> only), which is a bit more gentle than the current situtation" a
> good stopping point.  That state is already making ff-only the
> default for unconfigured users, or you can view it as shipping "git
> pull" in a shape that has the more dangerous half of its feature
> disabled to avoid hurting users.  So I am not sure why you keep
> saying you do not have --ff-only as the default.

The warning doesn't make the pull fail, ff-only does.

On the current master this works:

  test_expect_success 'non-fast-forward (default)' '
    setup_non_ff &&
    git pull
  '

And after my patch series (part 1) it still does. The default behavior
has not changed.

I'm not sure what it is that I'm not explaining correctly.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-07 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-04  6:16 [PATCH v2 00/14] pull: default warning improvements Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] doc: pull: explain what is a fast-forward Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 22:55   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:21   ` Jacob Keller
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] pull: improve default warning Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 22:59   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  0:12     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-05  0:56       ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:56         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-05  9:23           ` Chris Torek
2020-12-05 11:47             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-05 16:28           ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05 21:27             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-06  1:01               ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-06 14:31                 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-07  7:26                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-07  9:16                   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-07 18:16                     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-07 19:09                       ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2020-12-07 19:53                         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-07 22:14                           ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-07 23:30                           ` Jacob Keller
2020-12-08  2:23                             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08  3:15                               ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-08 20:16                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-09  9:52                                   ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-09 19:05                                     ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-10  2:39                                       ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-10  6:45                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-10  9:08                                         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-10 10:01                                           ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-11  7:17                                           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-11 11:33                                             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 21:04                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-14 22:30                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 23:14                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  2:36                                                     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-15  2:31                                             ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  3:49                                               ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-15 11:18                                               ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15 12:53                                                 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-07  9:23         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] pull: refactor fast-forward check Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] pull: cleanup autostash check Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:07   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  0:47     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-05  0:57       ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] pull: trivial cleanup Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:09   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  0:48     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] pull: move default warning Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:18   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-04 23:36     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] pull: display default warning only when non-ff Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:24   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:03     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] pull: trivial whitespace style fix Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] pull: introduce --merge option Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:27   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:06     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] pull: add proper error with --ff-only Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:34   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:18     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] tentative: pull: change the semantics of --ff-only Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:39   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  4:01     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-05  4:06       ` [PATCH] experiment: pull: change --ff-only and default mode Felipe Contreras
2020-12-05 17:29         ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05 18:16           ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-07  7:34           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-05 11:37       ` [PATCH v2 11/14] tentative: pull: change the semantics of --ff-only Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] pull: show warning with --ff Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:41   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:25     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] test: merge-pull-config: trivial cleanup Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:41   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-04  6:16 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] test: pull-options: revert unnecessary changes Felipe Contreras
2020-12-04 23:49   ` Elijah Newren
2020-12-05  1:28     ` Felipe Contreras

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