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From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	Git <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] init: provide useful advice about init.defaultBranch
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 20:00:12 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP44s3bhPP4BcNCfa4KeaoaDLm+XZqV1cX8wyaMmZyHzJujuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq360dqgpa.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com>

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:58 PM Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
> > <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> +static const char default_branch_name_advice[] = N_(
> >> +"Using '%s' as the name for the initial branch. This default branch name\n"
> >> +"is subject to change. To configure the initial branch name to use in all\n"
> >> +"of your new repositories, which will suppress this warning, call:\n"
> >> +"\n"
> >> +"\tgit config --global init.defaultBranch <name>\n"
> >> +"\n"
> >> +"Common names are 'main', 'trunk' and 'development'. The initial branch\n"
> >
> > This is disingenuous; the most common name is "master"... by far. In a
> > couple years this might change, but not right now.
> >
> > If you don't want to mention "master", then don't mention "common
> > names" that are not really the most common names.
>
> Names commonly chosen by those who want to move away from 'master'
> are...

But we don't want to spill drama into the user interface.

I think the vast majority of users haven't heard of this drama. Just
like the vast majority of users had not heard of the git-foo
obsoletion even after several years. Our vantage point is skewed for
being too close to Git development.

Those users will ask: "who wants to move away from 'master'?"

If we don't presume our users have the same knowledge as us, we have to explain:

  Names commonly chosen by those who want to move away from 'master'
  are; 'main', 'trunk', and 'development'. For more information read
  this post:
  https://dev.to/rhymu8354/git-renaming-the-master-branch-137b.

I say don't. If the user wants to know why anyone would want to change
"the default branch name", she can google it and find out.

Cheer.

-- 
Felipe Contreras

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-11  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-22 23:23 [PATCH 0/3] Add helpful advice about init.defaultBranch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-22 23:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] init: document `init.defaultBranch` better Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-22 23:40   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 12:07     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-22 23:23 ` [PATCH 2/3] get_default_branch_name(): prepare for showing some advice Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-22 23:23 ` [PATCH 3/3] init: provide useful advice about init.defaultBranch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-22 23:53   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23  2:07     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 12:28       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-23 18:40         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 20:46           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-23 21:28             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 12:26     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-23 12:49   ` Philip Oakley
2020-11-23 20:47     ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-23 23:20 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Add helpful " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-23 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] init: document `init.defaultBranch` better Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-23 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] branch -m: allow renaming a yet-unborn branch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-23 23:45     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24  5:47       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-24 20:14         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-23 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] get_default_branch_name(): prepare for showing some advice Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-23 23:20   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] init: provide useful advice about init.defaultBranch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-23 23:53     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-11-24  5:57       ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-11-24 20:53         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-09 14:47           ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-12-09 22:15             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-10 12:12               ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-12-10 23:32                 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-10  0:40             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24 15:07   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] Add helpful " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24 15:07     ` [PATCH v3 1/4] init: document `init.defaultBranch` better Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24 15:07     ` [PATCH v3 2/4] branch -m: allow renaming a yet-unborn branch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24 15:07     ` [PATCH v3 3/4] get_default_branch_name(): prepare for showing some advice Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-11-24 15:07     ` [PATCH v3 4/4] init: provide useful advice about init.defaultBranch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-10 21:58     ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Add helpful " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-10 21:58       ` [PATCH v4 1/4] init: document `init.defaultBranch` better Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-11  0:24         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-11  5:47           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-11  6:26             ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-11  5:59           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-10 21:58       ` [PATCH v4 2/4] branch -m: allow renaming a yet-unborn branch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-10 21:58       ` [PATCH v4 3/4] get_default_branch_name(): prepare for showing some advice Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-10 21:58       ` [PATCH v4 4/4] init: provide useful advice about init.defaultBranch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-11  0:15         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-11  1:22           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-11  0:47             ` Johannes Schindelin
2020-12-11  2:00             ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2020-12-11 11:36       ` [PATCH v5 0/4] Add helpful " Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-11 11:36         ` [PATCH v5 1/4] init: document `init.defaultBranch` better Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-11 11:36         ` [PATCH v5 2/4] branch -m: allow renaming a yet-unborn branch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-11 11:36         ` [PATCH v5 3/4] get_default_branch_name(): prepare for showing some advice Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2020-12-11 11:36         ` [PATCH v5 4/4] init: provide useful advice about init.defaultBranch Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-02-02 21:24           ` SZEDER Gábor
2021-02-02 22:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-03  5:20               ` SZEDER Gábor

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