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From: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>
To: Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [libgpiod][PATCH 0/5] core: provide information about the parent chip in line requests
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 11:38:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMRc=MfCPieOH-zYyvtoqzjQYt3zW7cL2waWOQbjB0k0wXm0Jw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZLj7an9hR7qy3foM@sol>

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 11:16 AM Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:49:46AM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:39 AM Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:25:14AM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:05 AM Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 09:59:00AM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 5:27 AM Kent Gibson <warthog618@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 09:20:52PM +0200, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
> > > > > > > > From: Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@linaro.org>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While working on the DBus API, it occurred to me that while we can obtain
> > > > > > > > the list of requested offsets from a line request, this information lacks
> > > > > > > > context if we cannot get any information about the parent chip on which
> > > > > > > > the request was made.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We cannot reference the chip in any way as its lifetime is disconnected
> > > > > > > > from the request but we can at least provide the path to the character
> > > > > > > > device used to open it as a way of providing some context for the offsets.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No problem with this conceptually, the only question I have is which
> > > > > > > one of these should be stored:
> > > > > > >  - requested path e.g. 'a_symlink_to_my_favorite_chip'
> > > > > > >  - canonicalised path e.g. '/dev/gpiochip0'
> > > > > > >  - chip name e.g. 'gpiochip0'
> > > > > > >  - chip number e.g. 0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this patch we get the requested path, right?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I think we should just use whatever filesystem path was used to
> > > > > > create the chip as it would be the one allowing the caller to reopen
> > > > > > the same chip.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So there are instances where those four don't map to the same thing?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not in a typical situation, it can happen if the chip was removed and
> > > > another one took its place which is very unlikely.
> > > >
> > >
> > > And a symlink could get changed as well.
> > >
> > > > I just think that we cannot have any "hard data" as in: a programmatic
> > > > reference to the chip in the request (their lifetimes are not
> > > > connected), so the next best thing is the filesystem path.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Indeed - the chip fd used to request the line is out of scope.
> > >
> > > But the number of possible requested paths is many, whereas the other
> > > three options produce a unique and comparable identifier, in a searching
> > > sense.
> > >
> >
> > So which one do you suggest?
> >
>
> Any of the latter three are equivlent, so you can use whichever is most
> convenient.  I've used canonical path in my Rust library, and chip name
> in my Go library.  IIRC in Rust I had the canonical path handy and it
> was easier to keep it as is than to break it down to name or number.
> Why I went with name in the Go is lost in the mists of time.
> I do recall toying with going with number but I wasn't sure if gpiochips
> were guaranteed to be named 'gpiochipN'.
>
> Given what you have below for DBus, name looks the most natural to me.
>
> > > On a related point, does the DBus API allow a client to access lines
> > > requested by another client?  And if so, how can they be sure they have
> > > the right line?
> > >
> >
> > Sure they can but various user permissions as configured in the
> > relevant .conf file may apply.
> >
>
> So setting up the dbus-daemon security policy for the objects?
>

Not per-object unfortunately, I don't think this is possible with the
standard dbus-daemon or dbus-broker. May be possible in the daemon
itself if we can get the UID of the peer (we can get credentials of
peers in pure DBus but I'm not sure if we can do it when passing
through a bus daemon).

> > So what I've got so far in dbus (and feel free to check out the WiP[1]) is this:
> >
>
> I have had a quick look at it, but so far only a quick look and I'm not
> familiar with DBus so there is a lot of background to fill in.
>
> > There's an /io/gpiod1/gpiochipX object per chip implementing the
> > io.gpiod1.Chip interface. For each line there's a separate object as
> > well:
> >
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/0
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/1
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/2
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/3
> >
> > Line objects implement the io.gpiod1.Line interface and the daemon
> > emits a PropertiesChanged signal for any status changes.
> >
>
> Can the client select which of those signals it sees?
>

They can listen for PropertiesChanged on a single line but will get an
event on any change and will have to filter out the unwanted
themselves.

> > You can call io.gpiod1.Chip.RequestLines() method on a chip object
> > which will return the object path to the new request.
> >
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/0
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/1
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/2
> > /io/gpiod1/gpiochip0/3
> > /io/gpiod1/request0
> >
> > The request will reference the chip object from which it was created
> > as well as the lines it controls.
> >
>
> What about the reverse mapping?
>

As in: line-to-request? Not sure this is needed? I want the
io.gpiod1.Line interface to expose GetValue/SetValue methods and let
the daemon figure out the mapping logic internally. These methods
would fail if the line is not part of any request controlled by the
daemon.

>
> Where do edge events fit in there?
>

It's a signal exposed by the io.gpiod1.Line interface.

Bart

> Cheers,
> Kent.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-20  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 19:20 [libgpiod][PATCH 0/5] core: provide information about the parent chip in line requests Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-19 19:20 ` [libgpiod][PATCH 1/5] core: provide gpiod_line_request_get_chip_path() Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-19 19:20 ` [libgpiod][PATCH 2/5] tests: add a test-case for gpiod_line_request_get_chip_path() Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-19 19:20 ` [libgpiod][PATCH 3/5] bindings: cxx: provide line_request::chip_path() Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-19 19:20 ` [libgpiod][PATCH 4/5] bindings: python: provide the chip_path property in line_request Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-19 19:20 ` [libgpiod][PATCH 5/5] bindings: rust: provide LineRequest::chip_path() Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-20  5:04   ` Erik Schilling
2023-07-20  8:04     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-20  8:10       ` Erik Schilling
2023-07-20  3:27 ` [libgpiod][PATCH 0/5] core: provide information about the parent chip in line requests Kent Gibson
2023-07-20  7:59   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-20  8:05     ` Kent Gibson
2023-07-20  8:25       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-20  8:39         ` Kent Gibson
2023-07-20  8:49           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-20  9:16             ` Kent Gibson
2023-07-20  9:38               ` Bartosz Golaszewski [this message]
2023-07-20  9:52                 ` Kent Gibson
2023-07-20 12:30                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-20 13:37                     ` Kent Gibson
2023-07-20 15:01                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-07-21  1:37                         ` Kent Gibson
2023-07-20  8:42     ` Andy Shevchenko

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