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From: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
To: Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: loosing netdevices with namespaces and unshare?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 15:40:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM_iQpWicK0XySQ+L+DtVi2e2hUZx7w9CL0hC-kOaQsdbpXKtw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170531181108.3kv5xqszwv5ub7cy@nataraja>

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org> wrote:
> I mean, what is the *use case* for loosing any refrence to a physical
> network device and unregistering it from the stack?  Is there any API by
> which a new netdevice structure can be instantiated on the actual
> hardware?  Registering the netdev is what the driver does during
> discovering the system hardware.  If there's a method to "automagically"
> loose devices, at the very least I wold expect some reasonable method to
> resurrect them.  Unloading the kernel module and reloading it is for
> sure not elegant, particularly not if you have multiple Ethernet
> devices/ports sharing the same driver.
>
> One could e.g. also think of something like a special namespace that
> collects all the "orphan" netdevices.  Something analogous to the old
> Unix tradition of "pid 1" collecting all the orphan tasks whose parents
> died.  Transferring them into that "netdev orphanage" could
> automatically set the link down so that no accidential
> routing/forwarding of traffic between the devices is possible.

Understand.

But you have other choices than using the physical interface
directly in non-root ns, for example, creating a virtual pair and
connect it with the physical one with a bridge. There are various
ways to achieve this.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-31 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-30 22:07 loosing netdevices with namespaces and unshare? Harald Welte
2017-05-30 23:18 ` Cong Wang
2017-05-31 12:27   ` Harald Welte
2017-05-31 17:44     ` Cong Wang
2017-05-31 18:11       ` Harald Welte
2017-05-31 22:40         ` Cong Wang [this message]
2017-05-31 23:13           ` Harald Welte
2017-06-01  6:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-01  7:00         ` Harald Welte
2017-06-01  7:48           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-02 23:25         ` Cong Wang
2017-06-03 10:53           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-30 23:41 ` David Ahern

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