From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88A8C433F4 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 18:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446B521476 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 18:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="MiWPdXWW" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 446B521476 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726727AbeIXAkL (ORCPT ); Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:40:11 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-f41.google.com ([209.85.167.41]:37489 "EHLO mail-lf1-f41.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726300AbeIXAkK (ORCPT ); Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:40:10 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-f41.google.com with SMTP id b12-v6so7527810lfa.4 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=O9XJ4EzlqcIOM8lcUFeUBTkHny71nPN9thjFFE1Btns=; b=MiWPdXWWRQi5ahx4vmzhBXbtbGur7dXJ+TN4Q0eUZAWBU9yH9V7IWFFTV8rhOOKSDS 0bt1VzY0Hp6Kv/8I5X6qK/jV8QpztFxigkMw/pyKcvonwbC+Nz1/sT9H15ROBDESInqH rMNq7UooIT32xVyrjLlxvKW98+OidWWusdPMVuSgwAcl9xJAgHurgN1WF/2Eni0Zp6/K AfG+XeIOkea2a5uI8GsH3FLghcB8FQOvqY8cHTNcQZNjvopq7+9LA3UWbFX+XrOwKq8W h+dQbbhrGUtpOkI6gvNmkFRYtgrKazUMNukLOVBJi313OSarb30vwzjsUXt/rEaAf/Sx au3A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=O9XJ4EzlqcIOM8lcUFeUBTkHny71nPN9thjFFE1Btns=; b=rNFdQMbGmGKlyEnujcJm6EGiR0LZRqYb8cH0pdDZcm8xrA9K1pdano2rC8wAyUokYD sGuJUYV9v5PGlgITpUttlO2R4HdQtX9ALcKZ+nnXswc9ZPO2xlWXQUPMF76kM9LRwYeF BZACHMbHihvyUCazgya6zCrRpKaA1sC+2GOKVPVf21UH1T0UqEZOkrpe9cJpLjnuqL+e tGoaaiaL6OLZicLgZ8lvUm+aQttTET0NkjJPSxttSMygPr9ZDDBVlIYOUUKzgEnZBDV6 8P9UrVycW47zNhmcjoWNN8j01ojxTD+RTLa6IqY+2YLLdDZ/ZQpc/XgX0syPEsHsUTtL ftLQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BVYFItNUijBaC+oJymGv7dUbniGc0cGLTYUKXh9lxZ1foSK/5W IExAtTY8rN9NQAJP8VMBa7q/rhZs8iPqEdS+crg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaFraGZjLlsc3kIDufvFDyLLkRTCyCOf3y3aO8ppYI5Th9aVnKdr6WQER04oZ5GgfkUqoR2Xrd+/yrePjcb64s= X-Received: by 2002:a19:990c:: with SMTP id b12-v6mr3898299lfe.18.1537728104544; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a19:278e:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:41:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net> <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net> <20180920041846.GA4418@1wt.eu> <206423b0a199c1f12e61364d6e687e09@redchan.it> From: "\\0xDynamite" Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2018 13:41:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it. To: Edward Cree Cc: unconditionedwitness@redchan.it, Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> Contributors can, at any time, rescind the license grant regarding their >> property via written notice to those whom they are rescinding the grant >> from (regarding their property (code)). > > I know others have already said it, but: > This is legally nonsense. The only way I can revoke someone's rights to > my code under the GPL is if they violate the terms of the GPL. If I > were to do so otherwise, then _I_ would be in violation for having > distributed derived works of the kernel without a GPL, not to mention > the obvious reliance/estoppel problems. Actually, like Chris Conrad said, this isn't necessarily the case -- even though you are *contractually* right. The problem is -- that no one *signed* that contract. These are gentle/wo/men's agreements. They are essentially the same as a click-wrap agreement in terms of enforceability. That being said, there is still legal recourse, just as there was/is with click-wrap agreements. It's just not clear how much. Mark Janssen, JD