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[209.85.219.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bk25-20020a05620a1a1900b006ff8ac9acfdsm12401133qkb.49.2023.01.13.00.26.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f177.google.com with SMTP id g4so21534409ybg.7; Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:26:35 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a25:7:0:b0:7c1:b2e9:7e71 with SMTP id 7-20020a250007000000b007c1b2e97e71mr830819yba.604.1673598394939; Fri, 13 Jan 2023 00:26:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20230113062339.1909087-1-hch@lst.de> <11e2e0a8-eabe-2d8c-d612-9cdd4bcc3648@physik.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <11e2e0a8-eabe-2d8c-d612-9cdd4bcc3648@physik.fu-berlin.de> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 09:26:23 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: remove arch/sh To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Yoshinori Sato , Rich Felker , Arnd Bergmann , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Laurent Pinchart , Kieran Bingham , Geert Uytterhoeven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: dmaengine@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 9:10 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 1/13/23 07:23, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > arch/sh has been a long drag because it supports a lot of SOCs, and most > > of them haven't even been converted to device tree infrastructure. These > > SOCs are generally obsolete as well, and all of the support has been barely > > maintained for almost 10 years, and not at all for more than 1 year. > > > > Drop arch/sh and everything that depends on it. > > I'm still maintaining and using this port in Debian. > > It's a bit disappointing that people keep hammering on it. It works fine for me. Indeed. The main issue is not the lack of people sending patches and fixes, but those patches never being applied by the maintainers. Perhaps someone is willing to stand up to take over maintainership? Thanks! Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds