From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36186C433E0 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 20:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0185823133 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 20:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727239AbhAFUmR (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:42:17 -0500 Received: from mail-ot1-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]:39292 "EHLO mail-ot1-f47.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726807AbhAFUmR (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:42:17 -0500 Received: by mail-ot1-f47.google.com with SMTP id d8so4281674otq.6; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:42:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=+nn1mS9duynrGzRRIiFhGe9v+GbfGVRWJu+NZK2hPWU=; b=UDuCsxFJodQ7UtSUWcHcnQKi4acOn3zHTLZODVkQGgcICl8piK2c+ydqsyeyPV4AaM mxCXQxvApj4NHYjswZkKusri1CS+/6E+Ee3Lh7L4gw2lBVVxbRujJWVRSUb//RlKtJig Dh6N7d+x3vclv5zXDmtzv64XLPv7807aoIRs5OjdxJmMjy4bFjklAvBaiXh1DDyj7KoG ibNKXV0CilBaHhan0UQrraOWIQBoxejggaLBlONa8Qp26xD6I69G4UYZkASsCJAG/ZA5 p7T769/o0BqRLQi/+SMlQ7q8NZCRkhHcAYANTI/pKdGJ2GDZgARWuftLq2QQ7xS/4hAh y1Mw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531MvxeRBdRjaSvpWTDMq2b3idI2cZs6V5V8CIb8K1pipGZtfKZI cxEe/FQlojeigUdOWKj5lulfExQf8dh/JF3rWzs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzU2VNqomItTpW9N5EsZUcSxwbWydRvzmZvuW0h6PN+1EDrO5WVGcImI85plCOq8i6uJPLffPJf+e8BxB/lkhA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1f5a:: with SMTP id u26mr4549619oth.250.1609965695506; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:41:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210105140305.141401-1-tsbogend@alpha.franken.de> <20210106184839.GA7773@alpha.franken.de> In-Reply-To: <20210106184839.GA7773@alpha.franken.de> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 21:41:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Remove support for TX49xx To: Thomas Bogendoerfer Cc: Matt Mackall , Herbert Xu , Dan Williams , Vinod Koul , "David S. Miller" , Miquel Raynal , Richard Weinberger , Vignesh Raghavendra , Jakub Kicinski , Alessandro Zummo , Alexandre Belloni , Mark Brown , Wim Van Sebroeck , Guenter Roeck , Liam Girdwood , Jaroslav Kysela , Takashi Iwai , "open list:BROADCOM NVRAM DRIVER" , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux Crypto Mailing List , dmaengine , linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, MTD Maling List , netdev , linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, linux-spi , Linux Watchdog Mailing List , ALSA Development Mailing List , Atsushi Nemoto Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: dmaengine@vger.kernel.org Hi Thomas, On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 7:49 PM Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 09:37:11AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:03 PM Thomas Bogendoerfer > > wrote: > > > I couldn't find any buyable product other than reference boards using > > > TX49xx CPUs. And since nobody showed interest in keeping support for > > > it, it's time to remove it. > > > > I have an RBTX4927 development board in my board farm, boot-test every > > bi-weekly renesas-drivers release on it, and fix kernel issues when they > > appear. > > > > Is that sufficient to keep it? > > for me it is. But now we probaly need some reverts then... Indeed. Fortunately not all of it, as some removals were TX4938-only. > I wonder whether you have seen my mail about the removal > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20201207105627.GA15866@alpha.franken.de > > and my call for people owning MIPS machines > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20200227144910.GA25011@alpha.franken.de/ Sorry, I'm not following the linux-mips list that closely, so I hadn't seen them. It's always a good idea to CC linux-kernel, and perhaps the few people who last touched the affected files. > Still "unclaimed" machines are > > IMG Pistachio SoC based boards (MACH_PISTACHIO( > Toshiba TX39 series based machines (MACH_TX39XX) > NEC VR4100 series based machines (MACH_VR41XX) > Netlogic XLR/XLS based systems (NLM_XLR_BOARD) > Netlogic XLP based systems (NLM_XLP_BOARD) > Sibyte BCM91120C-CRhine (SIBYTE_CRHINE) > Sibyte BCM91120x-Carmel (SIBYTE_CARMEL) > Sibyte BCM91125C-CRhone (SIBYTE_CRHONE) > Sibyte BCM91125E-Rhone (SIBYTE_RHONE) > Sibyte BCM91250C2-LittleSur (SIBYTE_LITTLESUR) > Sibyte BCM91250E-Sentosa (SIBYTE_SENTOSA) > > Is there something on this list you also regulary use ? No, I don't have anything from the list above. The RBTX4927 is basically my last MIPS-based system I do boot current kernels on. In active use, not for development: - Ubiquiti EdgeRouter-X (Ralink-based). Stored in my attic: - NetGear WNDR4300 (AtherOS-based), - MikroTik Routerboard 150 (ADMtek-based, no (longer?) supported upstream), - NEC DDB VRC-5476 (upstream support removed 15 years ago ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. 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Miller" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-mtd" Errors-To: linux-mtd-bounces+linux-mtd=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org Hi Thomas, On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 7:49 PM Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 09:37:11AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 3:03 PM Thomas Bogendoerfer > > wrote: > > > I couldn't find any buyable product other than reference boards using > > > TX49xx CPUs. And since nobody showed interest in keeping support for > > > it, it's time to remove it. > > > > I have an RBTX4927 development board in my board farm, boot-test every > > bi-weekly renesas-drivers release on it, and fix kernel issues when they > > appear. > > > > Is that sufficient to keep it? > > for me it is. But now we probaly need some reverts then... Indeed. Fortunately not all of it, as some removals were TX4938-only. > I wonder whether you have seen my mail about the removal > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20201207105627.GA15866@alpha.franken.de > > and my call for people owning MIPS machines > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mips/20200227144910.GA25011@alpha.franken.de/ Sorry, I'm not following the linux-mips list that closely, so I hadn't seen them. It's always a good idea to CC linux-kernel, and perhaps the few people who last touched the affected files. > Still "unclaimed" machines are > > IMG Pistachio SoC based boards (MACH_PISTACHIO( > Toshiba TX39 series based machines (MACH_TX39XX) > NEC VR4100 series based machines (MACH_VR41XX) > Netlogic XLR/XLS based systems (NLM_XLR_BOARD) > Netlogic XLP based systems (NLM_XLP_BOARD) > Sibyte BCM91120C-CRhine (SIBYTE_CRHINE) > Sibyte BCM91120x-Carmel (SIBYTE_CARMEL) > Sibyte BCM91125C-CRhone (SIBYTE_CRHONE) > Sibyte BCM91125E-Rhone (SIBYTE_RHONE) > Sibyte BCM91250C2-LittleSur (SIBYTE_LITTLESUR) > Sibyte BCM91250E-Sentosa (SIBYTE_SENTOSA) > > Is there something on this list you also regulary use ? No, I don't have anything from the list above. The RBTX4927 is basically my last MIPS-based system I do boot current kernels on. In active use, not for development: - Ubiquiti EdgeRouter-X (Ralink-based). Stored in my attic: - NetGear WNDR4300 (AtherOS-based), - MikroTik Routerboard 150 (ADMtek-based, no (longer?) supported upstream), - NEC DDB VRC-5476 (upstream support removed 15 years ago ;-) Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds ______________________________________________________ Linux MTD discussion mailing list http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-mtd/