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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Bamvor Jian Zhang <bamv2005@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] selftests: Miscellaneous fixes
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:57:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWGbJwWXMK7f10n2zPSiMEj7EHJfiK0Pj4ABHHu3f4sdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNASdA+5_pdTjr1dY-cKGSDq804Huc_CX_8-Gg+ypFCmajQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Yamada-san,

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:15 AM Masahiro Yamada
<yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:52 PM Geert Uytterhoeven
> <geert+renesas@glider.be> wrote:
> > This patch series contains several build fixes and cleanups for issues I
> > encountered when trying to cross-build an rtctest binary in a separate
> > output directory (like I use for all my kernel builds).
>
> Geert,
> Thanks for working on this!
>
> My fundamental question is,
> why did tools/ opt out Kbuild?

Good question.  I think it originally started as a separate small project.

> I think lots of mess comes in
> in order to support
>   cd tools/gpio; make
>
> instead of
>
>   make tools/gpio/
>
> Lots of files are duplicated in tools/build/
> in order to invent a different build system for tools/

I agree switching to kbuild would be the best solution.
Unfortunately my kbuild foo is not strong enough...

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: geert at linux-m68k.org (Geert Uytterhoeven)
Subject: [PATCH 00/12] selftests: Miscellaneous fixes
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:57:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWGbJwWXMK7f10n2zPSiMEj7EHJfiK0Pj4ABHHu3f4sdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNASdA+5_pdTjr1dY-cKGSDq804Huc_CX_8-Gg+ypFCmajQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Yamada-san,

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:15 AM Masahiro Yamada
<yamada.masahiro at socionext.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:52 PM Geert Uytterhoeven
> <geert+renesas at glider.be> wrote:
> > This patch series contains several build fixes and cleanups for issues I
> > encountered when trying to cross-build an rtctest binary in a separate
> > output directory (like I use for all my kernel builds).
>
> Geert,
> Thanks for working on this!
>
> My fundamental question is,
> why did tools/ opt out Kbuild?

Good question.  I think it originally started as a separate small project.

> I think lots of mess comes in
> in order to support
>   cd tools/gpio; make
>
> instead of
>
>   make tools/gpio/
>
> Lots of files are duplicated in tools/build/
> in order to invent a different build system for tools/

I agree switching to kbuild would be the best solution.
Unfortunately my kbuild foo is not strong enough...

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID
From: geert@linux-m68k.org (Geert Uytterhoeven)
Subject: [PATCH 00/12] selftests: Miscellaneous fixes
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 08:57:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWGbJwWXMK7f10n2zPSiMEj7EHJfiK0Pj4ABHHu3f4sdw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190118075727.cKHOmSOa5_QLijhhbC9-8A68LXJqRnmafXdeI1NDEMY@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNASdA+5_pdTjr1dY-cKGSDq804Huc_CX_8-Gg+ypFCmajQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Yamada-san,

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 5:15 AM Masahiro Yamada
<yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:52 PM Geert Uytterhoeven
> <geert+renesas@glider.be> wrote:
> > This patch series contains several build fixes and cleanups for issues I
> > encountered when trying to cross-build an rtctest binary in a separate
> > output directory (like I use for all my kernel builds).
>
> Geert,
> Thanks for working on this!
>
> My fundamental question is,
> why did tools/ opt out Kbuild?

Good question.  I think it originally started as a separate small project.

> I think lots of mess comes in
> in order to support
>   cd tools/gpio; make
>
> instead of
>
>   make tools/gpio/
>
> Lots of files are duplicated in tools/build/
> in order to invent a different build system for tools/

I agree switching to kbuild would be the best solution.
Unfortunately my kbuild foo is not strong enough...

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-18  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-14 13:51 Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51 ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 01/12] selftests: gpio-mockup-chardev: Check asprintf() for error Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-16 22:03   ` shuah
2019-01-16 22:03     ` shuah
2019-01-16 22:03     ` shuah
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 02/12] selftests: Fix output directory with O= Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 03/12] selftests: Fix header install " Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 04/12] selftests: android: ion: Fix ionmap_test dependencies Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 05/12] selftests: seccomp: Fix test dependencies and rules Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 23:16   ` Kees Cook
2019-01-14 23:16     ` Kees Cook
2019-01-14 23:16     ` Kees Cook
2019-01-14 23:16     ` keescook
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 06/12] selftests: lib.mk: Add rule to build object file from C source file Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 07/12] selftests: memfd: Fix build with O= Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 08/12] selftests: timestamping: Remove superfluous rules Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 09/12] selftests: sparc64: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 10/12] selftests: intel_pstate: Remove unused header dependency rule Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH 11/12] selftests: Add kselftest-build target Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-14 13:51 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/12] selftests: gpio: Fix building tools/gpio from kselftests Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-14 13:51   ` geert+renesas
2019-01-18  4:14 ` [PATCH 00/12] selftests: Miscellaneous fixes Masahiro Yamada
2019-01-18  4:14   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-01-18  4:14   ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-01-18  4:14   ` yamada.masahiro
2019-01-18  7:57   ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2019-01-18  7:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-18  7:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-01-18  7:57     ` geert

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