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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de>,
	 Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	 ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] What kernel documentation could be
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 09:57:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdW_EkQ8pSgJjrZtBXXkitRv2Wq+fP4wCnPmyvaPQO-kxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220628084317.2f033ad5@sal.lan>

Hi Mauro,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:43 AM Mauro Carvalho Chehab
<mchehab@kernel.org> wrote:
> Em Mon, 27 Jun 2022 09:27:54 -0600
> Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> escreveu:
> > Markus Heiser <markus.heiser@darmarit.de> writes:
> > > IMO It is unnecessary that the build-chain must run on all
> > > platforms and with all distributions.
> > >
> > > Who observes the Sphinx-doc & docutils development since (>15)
> > > years is aware that with various (old) Sphinx-doc & docutils
> > > versions no stable results can be produced, not without
> > > complicating the build-chain.  And this is exactly the situation
> > > we are facing today.
> > >
> > > The build chain of documentation has nothing to do with kernel
> > > development (at least in my opinion) and should be decoupled from it:
> > > maintaining one defined build environment is enough work ... this
> > > becomes especially clear if you (as Jani recommends) rely more on
> > > sphinx-modules and widely used tools.
> >
> > The counterargument to this is that we want as many developers as
> > possible to be able to build the docs and contribute to them.  We can't
> > complain that developers have broken the docs build if we don't do what
> > we can to help them do the build themselves.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > One of our longstanding contributors is on Sphinx 1.8.5:
> >
> >   https://lwn.net/ml/linux-doc/4c403239-3c71-4ab9-2168-f7e9d77008b2%40infradead.org/

Ubuntu 20.04 LTS also has 1.8.5.
Looks like I'll get 4.3.2 after upgrading to 22.04 LTS (which is only
about two months old).

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-28  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-17 20:57 [TECH TOPIC] What kernel documentation could be Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-17 20:57 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-17 21:48 ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-06-17 21:48   ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-06-27 15:18   ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-18  8:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18  8:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18 11:03   ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-06-18 11:16     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18 11:16       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18 14:37       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-06-23  9:18   ` Jani Nikula
2022-06-23  9:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-23 10:30       ` Jani Nikula
2022-06-23 13:40       ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-24  7:33         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-24 16:37           ` Markus Heiser
2022-06-27 15:27             ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-27 15:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-28  7:43               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-28  7:57                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-06-28 11:01                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 12:43                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-06-24 22:57           ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-25  9:10             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-25 14:00               ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-25 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26  7:55                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-26  9:26                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-26  9:53                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-27 15:28                       ` Liam Howlett
2022-06-27 15:54                         ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-27 16:27                         ` Mark Brown
2022-06-28 10:53                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-28 16:13                         ` Luck, Tony
2022-06-27 15:34                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-27 17:07                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-01  8:48                       ` [PATCH 0/4] Address some issues with sphinx detection Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-01  8:48                         ` [PATCH 1/4] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: fix venv version check logic Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-01  8:48                         ` [PATCH 2/4] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: report broken venv Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-01  8:48                         ` [PATCH 3/4] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: check for PDF min version later on Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-01  8:48                         ` [PATCH 4/4] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: provide both venv and package installs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 10:11                       ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Address some issues with sphinx detection Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 10:11                         ` [PATCH v2 1/5] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: fix venv version check logic Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 10:11                         ` [PATCH v2 2/5] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: report broken venv Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 10:11                         ` [PATCH v2 3/5] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: check for PDF min version later on Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 10:11                         ` [PATCH v2 4/5] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: provide both venv and package installs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 10:11                         ` [PATCH v2 5/5] scripts: sphinx-pre-install: place a warning for Sphinx >= 3.0 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-05  4:15                         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Address some issues with sphinx detection Akira Yokosawa
2022-07-06 14:31                           ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-07-07 20:33                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-07 18:45                           ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-07-07 20:25                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-07 20:15                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-08 11:34                             ` Expectation to --no-pdf option (was Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Address some issues with sphinx detection) Akira Yokosawa
2022-07-08 14:02                               ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-07-08 14:59                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-08 15:27                                   ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-07-08 23:01                                     ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-07-09  7:59                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-11 11:23                                         ` Akira Yokosawa
2022-08-01 23:30                         ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Address some issues with sphinx detection Tomasz Warniełło
2022-07-02 10:52                   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] What kernel documentation could be Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-25 17:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-25 17:48   ` Laurent Pinchart

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