From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752413Ab3B1GrJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:47:09 -0500 Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com ([209.85.223.171]:42203 "EHLO mail-ie0-f171.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750876Ab3B1GrG (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:47:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20130227135155.c04453db.akpm@linux-foundation.org> References: <1361944667.957820@landley.net> <20130227135155.c04453db.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:47:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uCIK3cEwVFDcRMeD5FJbYDq7Yj4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] build linux-next without perl From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: Andrew Morton Cc: Rob Landley , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Al Viro , Arnd Bergmann , Cyrill Gorcunov , Dave Jones , David Howells , David Howells , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "H. Peter Anvin" , "H. Peter Anvin" , Ingo Molnar , Josh Boyer , Michal Marek , "Paul E. McKenney" , Peter Zijlstra , Rusty Russell , Sam Ravnborg , Thomas Gleixner , Vince Weaver , x86@kernel.org, Zheng Yan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > It'll need to be reasonably good motivation, too. Because not only do > we need to patch the kernel, we also need to *maintain* its > perl-freeness and fix up perlisms as they later get added by others. That's actually a backwards argument: as long as there are scripts in the kernel source tree using perl, people will add more of them, since they see perl is an accepted scripting language within the Linux kernel build system. It's the same as refactoring existing code: if we don't, people will copy the bad examples. So we fix them, to avoid this. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds