From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-vk1-f170.google.com (mail-vk1-f170.google.com [209.85.221.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FAA972 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:29:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk1-f170.google.com with SMTP id k189so2212534vkb.6 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tbwA+IyCm/NwRqK4N5oJ3bfkUBqvAezf/1PBaQCP7JY=; b=nDeccgr3SUuDvWLdhA5jvgaBYv6MdKMjzl/VnnTKmn9ynywy9l7lVjJPifAIw0okfy mllnJ91ubPsuxdOSnVw9kpULtIwXJcObSsy4O6h7YFha3Tso6mrsuOkdfzcruahcCIEu kmdv5a5YKQf/y3AkaWWFc3RPQYs6vOAqSQHgwmv/t4hRn9goCKd40ZDJTibAuJC7Y6d5 EzinqHGn33bTXI7g49AYj7h/G3gsP540Pst+qrSkkztAXps3QvyfM8FIoE5LHXG487J+ VBIsLNXurmtSspSNp3ZGKM6NU9rh6Nvffqi5qWe11C+/vAbya5jV1VTdqhmaRU2okmCg HVHA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533qE7jpLPaolZAHU1Z/U/rtakzG7A11xo9RD1tzdf8KO1hChmWV 0IR0naMVksNRW/t8eWXpafJpPQs4YuNj/m56S24= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxEmFJfAgHdVEc+LB6mHSUHXYmYvJXtX7mWpBI0zcQ/6Lnom0KNtzfTrxWWH15izbyVI9mkUGQnhQl2V6QtMjM= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1a41:: with SMTP id a62mr6774027vka.5.1624030156104; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> <20210610152633.7e4a7304@oasis.local.home> <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> <20210618103214.0df292ec@oasis.local.home> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:29:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Steven Rostedt , James Bottomley , Laurent Pinchart , Shuah Khan , Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , "Theodore Ts'o" , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Linux FS Devel , Linux MM , netdev , Linux-Arch , Linux API Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 5:15 PM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 04:58:08PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 4:32 PM Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 16:28:02 +0200 > > > Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > > > > What about letting people use the personal mic they're already > > > > carrying, i.e. a phone? > > > > > > Interesting idea. > > > > > > I wonder how well that would work in practice. Are all phones good > > > enough to prevent echo? > > > > I deliberately didn't say anything about a speaker ;-) > > There's usually a speaker in the room so everyone can hear the question > ... Oh IC. I meant that not using the speaker on the phone, there cannot be any feedback from the phone speaker to the phone mic. W.r.t. the other speaker in the room, isn't that similar to the normal mic, and can't that be handled at the receiving side? There will be a bit more delay involved, though. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF72C49361 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A5861369 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235130AbhFRPcG (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:32:06 -0400 Received: from mail-vk1-f171.google.com ([209.85.221.171]:36787 "EHLO mail-vk1-f171.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235286AbhFRPb2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:31:28 -0400 Received: by mail-vk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id c17so2216360vke.3; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=tbwA+IyCm/NwRqK4N5oJ3bfkUBqvAezf/1PBaQCP7JY=; b=JPsaYHjtczQ2SHwZ2VHowOAXSyd6k9c04k8lSMpJxNUNI3WOxuFTqXl0qvxLZ6BKDP bsjEBqOX4M7kBymcrCH7Tju5R32bSQs0VoBsYOFhC5H0P00N4OhjlDN36GajlvnA38U8 zvXARxCKBuBYniU6geq+xqnjWJ3wL85FwESFQHmmagYijzIA/GSQW4hqx3TJjv3WwnEs 7cQkCe9tpom/oid1ScqOwTj5tTwnF5IAVeIlt/yrCxiQhsOo3t35ayGwkdM3aGPELTAm chpvIMfrnzSzfVYAkTi3XEldIc7GiRbMKiV1qJTTTb+hPAErnr29GC/v878cxZ+DiCKy ihjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5335kupY3m9Nbb8oHdZJOtX7xhfsjG8OwFvgTe9EokKiss2yTO3x h9B8TNNVPMwqzXF3fyG3IEVK7GLP/X5ElLQixzI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxEmFJfAgHdVEc+LB6mHSUHXYmYvJXtX7mWpBI0zcQ/6Lnom0KNtzfTrxWWH15izbyVI9mkUGQnhQl2V6QtMjM= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1a41:: with SMTP id a62mr6774027vka.5.1624030156104; Fri, 18 Jun 2021 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> <20210610152633.7e4a7304@oasis.local.home> <37e8d1a5-7c32-8e77-bb05-f851c87a1004@linuxfoundation.org> <20210618103214.0df292ec@oasis.local.home> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:29:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: Steven Rostedt , James Bottomley , Laurent Pinchart , Shuah Khan , Konstantin Ryabitsev , "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , "Theodore Ts'o" , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Linux FS Devel , Linux MM , netdev , Linux-Arch , Linux API Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 5:15 PM Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 04:58:08PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 4:32 PM Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 16:28:02 +0200 > > > Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > > > > What about letting people use the personal mic they're already > > > > carrying, i.e. a phone? > > > > > > Interesting idea. > > > > > > I wonder how well that would work in practice. Are all phones good > > > enough to prevent echo? > > > > I deliberately didn't say anything about a speaker ;-) > > There's usually a speaker in the room so everyone can hear the question > ... Oh IC. I meant that not using the speaker on the phone, there cannot be any feedback from the phone speaker to the phone mic. W.r.t. the other speaker in the room, isn't that similar to the normal mic, and can't that be handled at the receiving side? There will be a bit more delay involved, though. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds