hi David Teigland. Thanks your explanation. My use case is: I have 3 nodes and they all have access to a SAN storage. One node acts as admin node which manage lvs(such as creating or deleting lvs)。The other two nodes act as compute node which run VMs. Then I want to attach the lv to the VMs （not multiattach）。As I know ,the metadata is stored in PVs，then I create a lv on admin node, It can be seen on compute node without lvmetad adn clvmd daemon running. My questions is: 1 In this docment: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/sharinglvm1.html It says that "The key thing to remember when sharing volumes is that all the LVM administration must be done on one node only and that all other nodes must have LVM shut down before changing anything on the admin node. Then, when the changes have been made, it is necessary to run vgscan on the other nodes before reloading the volume groups." . I have not shot down lvm on compute node ,and I have not run vgscan on compute node after I create lv on admin node, But I can see the lv after I create it on admin node. Should I take the operation shutdown and run vgsan? 2 If I do not use clvmd or lvmlockd, Shoud I run additional operation to activate the lvs on compute node before attaching it to VM. and Shoud I do another after I run the delete lv operation on admin node? As I have tried yesterday, After I run lvremove lv on admin node, It is still has file in directory /dev/myvg/ on compute node. Can you explain them to me? Thanks very much. 2016-08-25 23:59 GMT+08:00 David Teigland : > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 09:50:24AM +0800, su liu wrote: > > I have a question about lvm2 cluster, The scene is that I try to imitate > > FCSAN by mapping a rbd volume to two compute node, Then I using the rbd > > volume to create a PV and VG.I stoped the lvmetad daemon on the compute > > nodes. Then I find that when I operating the VG on one compute node, the > > changes can also be aware on another compute nodes. > > > > But this docment(http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/sharinglvm1.html） > says > > that "*LVM is not cluster aware".* > > > > My question is that can I use the method to achieve the case that I > create > > or delete lv on one node whlie other compute node can using the lvs? > > > > Can anybody explain this? > > It's not safe to use lvm on shared storage without some extra mechanism to > protect the data or coordinate access among hosts. There are multiple > ways, depending on what sort of sharing/coordination you want to use: > > - use system ID to protect VGs from other hosts, > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmsystemid.7.html > > - use lvmlockd to coordinate sharing with sanlock or dlm (this is new), > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/lvmlockd.8.html > > - use clvm to coordinate sharing with dlm (this is old) > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/clvmd.8.html > >