All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Li Li <dualli@chromium.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Li Li" <dualli@google.com>, "Todd Kjos" <tkjos@google.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <christian@brauner.io>,
	"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
	"open list:ANDROID DRIVERS" <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Martijn Coenen" <maco@google.com>,
	"Hridya Valsaraju" <hridya@google.com>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Android Kernel Team" <kernel-team@android.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] binder: fix freeze race
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 23:17:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANBPYPgEbFusdyrcV1EqridahQGTH7X=s8ufUA9SMR8SefAO2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YTrvMSm2oB91IhuK@kroah.com>

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 10:38 PM Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 08:53:16PM -0700, Li Li wrote:
> >  struct binder_frozen_status_info {
> >       __u32            pid;
> > +
> > +     /* process received sync transactions since last frozen
> > +      * bit 0: received sync transaction after being frozen
> > +      * bit 1: new pending sync transaction during freezing
> > +      */
> >       __u32            sync_recv;
>
> You just changed a user/kernel api here, did you just break existing
> userspace applications?  If not, how did that not happen?
>

That's a good question. This design does keep backward compatibility.

The existing userspace applications call ioctl(BINDER_GET_FROZEN_INFO)
to check if there's sync or async binder transactions sent to a frozen
process.

If the existing userspace app runs on a new kernel, a sync binder call
still sets bit 1 of sync_recv (as it's a bool variable) so the ioctl
will return the expected value (TRUE). The app just doesn't check bit
1 intentionally so it doesn't have the ability to tell if there's a
race - this behavior is aligned with what happens on an old kernel as
the old kernel doesn't have bit 1 set at all.

The bit 1 of sync_recv enables new userspace app the ability to tell
1) there's a sync binder transaction happened when being frozen - same
as before; and 2) if that sync binder transaction happens exactly when
there's a race - a new information for rollback decision.

> thanks,
>
> greg k-h

Thanks,
Li

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-10  6:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-10  3:53 [PATCH v2 0/1] binder: fix freeze race Li Li
2021-09-10  3:53 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Li Li
2021-09-10  5:37   ` Greg KH
2021-09-10  6:17     ` Li Li [this message]
2021-09-10  7:15       ` Greg KH
2021-09-13 17:18         ` Li Li

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CANBPYPgEbFusdyrcV1EqridahQGTH7X=s8ufUA9SMR8SefAO2g@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=dualli@chromium.org \
    --cc=arve@android.com \
    --cc=christian@brauner.io \
    --cc=devel@driverdev.osuosl.org \
    --cc=dualli@google.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hridya@google.com \
    --cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
    --cc=kernel-team@android.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=maco@google.com \
    --cc=surenb@google.com \
    --cc=tkjos@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.