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From: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
To: jaewon31.kim@samsung.com
Cc: "T.J. Mercier" <tjmercier@google.com>,
	"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"mhocko@kernel.org" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"jaewon31.kim@gmail.com" <jaewon31.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (2) [PATCH] dma-buf: system_heap: avoid reclaim for order 4
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:04:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANDhNCo1JRmfouBn985GZLmPY-xLn9JKNJfubY0PAUrCpY8K4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230126044218epcms1p35474178c2f2b18524f35c7d9799e3aed@epcms1p3>

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:42 PM 김재원 <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 2:20 AM Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 10:54 PM John Stultz <jstultz@google.com> wrote:
> > But because your change is different from what the old ion code did, I
> > want to be a little cautious. So it would be nice to see some
> > evaluation of not just the benefits the patch provides you but also of
> > what negative impact it might have.  And so far you haven't provided
> > any details there.
> >
> > A quick example might be for the use case where mid-order allocations
> > are causing you trouble, you could see how the performance changes if
> > you force all mid-order allocations to be single page allocations (so
> > orders[] = {8, 0, 0};) and compare it with the current code when
> > there's no memory pressure (right after reboot when pages haven't been
> > fragmented) so the mid-order allocations will succeed.  That will let
> > us know the potential downside if we have brief / transient pressure
> > at allocation time that forces small pages.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
>
> Let me try this. It make take some days. But I guess it depends on memory
> status as you said. If there were quite many order 4 pages, then 8 4 0
> should be faster than 8 0 0.
>
> I don't know this is a right approach. In my opinion, except the specific
> cases like right after reboot, there are not many order 4 pages. And
> in determinisitic allocation time perspective, I think avoiding too long
> allocations is more important than making faster with already existing
> free order 4 pages.

I suspect you are right, and do think your change will be helpful.
But I just want to make sure we're doing some due diligence, instead
of going on just gut instinct.

Thanks so much for helping with this!
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26  5:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20230117082521epcas1p22a709521a9e6d2346d06ac220786560d@epcas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-01-17  8:25 ` [PATCH] dma-buf: system_heap: avoid reclaim for order 4 Jaewon Kim
     [not found]   ` <CGME20230117082521epcas1p22a709521a9e6d2346d06ac220786560d@epcms1p6>
2023-01-17  8:31     ` Jaewon Kim
2023-01-18  6:54       ` John Stultz
2023-01-18 19:55         ` T.J. Mercier
     [not found]         ` <CGME20230117082521epcas1p22a709521a9e6d2346d06ac220786560d@epcms1p2>
2023-01-25  9:56           ` Jaewon Kim
2023-01-25 10:19           ` Jaewon Kim
2023-01-25 20:32             ` John Stultz
     [not found]             ` <CGME20230117082521epcas1p22a709521a9e6d2346d06ac220786560d@epcms1p3>
2023-01-26  4:42               ` 김재원
2023-01-26  5:04                 ` John Stultz [this message]
     [not found]       ` <CGME20230117082521epcas1p22a709521a9e6d2346d06ac220786560d@epcms1p8>
2023-01-18  7:30         ` Jaewon Kim
2023-02-04 15:02         ` Jaewon Kim
2023-02-07  4:37           ` (2) " John Stultz
     [not found]           ` <CGME20230117082521epcas1p22a709521a9e6d2346d06ac220786560d@epcms1p1>
2023-02-07  7:33             ` Jaewon Kim
2023-02-07 16:56               ` John Stultz

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