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From: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
To: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Wei Xu <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
	David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/9] coresight: add support for CPU debug module
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:46:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANLsYkwPYSvy2xjf8uuvx1WGWpGdMFy7kF=30VbvgW+jDvnFuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330015941.GD3038@leoy-linaro>

On 29 March 2017 at 19:59, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:55:35AM -0600, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > So this is why add "idle_constraint" as a central place to control
>> > power domain for CPU debug purpose and I also think this is more
>> > friendly for hardware design, e.g. some platforms can enable partial
>> > low power states to save power and avoid overheat after using this
>> > driver.
>> >
>> > How about you think for this?
>>
>> Like Sudeep pointed out we should concentrate on doing the right thing,
>> that is work with EDPRSR.PU, EDPRCR.COREPURQ and EDPRCR.CORENPDRQ.
>
> Agree, and I think we have aligned for this.
>
>> Anything outside of that becomes platform specific and can't be handled in
>> this driver.
>
> Sorry I argue a bit for this just want to make things more clear and
> if can have better method.
>
> Though the issue is platform specific, but the code is to seek common
> method to handle them. So the driver has no any platform specific code.

Seeking a common way to handle platform specific problems doesn't
scale and will never be encompassing.  There will always be a quirk
somewhere to deal with, hence the idea of keeping things separate.

>
> I read again for Suziki's suggestion: "4) Should document the fact that,
> on some platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to
> get the driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user
> with a not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working."

Suzuki and I are expressing the same view using different words.

>
> So I'm not strong to resist and if this is alignment yet, I should
> document well for this but doesn't handle it in driver (keep driver
> simple).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
To: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Wei Xu <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
	David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Guodong Xu <guodong.xu@linaro.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>,
	"Suzuki K. Poulose" <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/9] coresight: add support for CPU debug module
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:46:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANLsYkwPYSvy2xjf8uuvx1WGWpGdMFy7kF=30VbvgW+jDvnFuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330015941.GD3038@leoy-linaro>

On 29 March 2017 at 19:59, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:55:35AM -0600, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > So this is why add "idle_constraint" as a central place to control
>> > power domain for CPU debug purpose and I also think this is more
>> > friendly for hardware design, e.g. some platforms can enable partial
>> > low power states to save power and avoid overheat after using this
>> > driver.
>> >
>> > How about you think for this?
>>
>> Like Sudeep pointed out we should concentrate on doing the right thing,
>> that is work with EDPRSR.PU, EDPRCR.COREPURQ and EDPRCR.CORENPDRQ.
>
> Agree, and I think we have aligned for this.
>
>> Anything outside of that becomes platform specific and can't be handled in
>> this driver.
>
> Sorry I argue a bit for this just want to make things more clear and
> if can have better method.
>
> Though the issue is platform specific, but the code is to seek common
> method to handle them. So the driver has no any platform specific code.

Seeking a common way to handle platform specific problems doesn't
scale and will never be encompassing.  There will always be a quirk
somewhere to deal with, hence the idea of keeping things separate.

>
> I read again for Suziki's suggestion: "4) Should document the fact that,
> on some platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to
> get the driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user
> with a not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working."

Suzuki and I are expressing the same view using different words.

>
> So I'm not strong to resist and if this is alignment yet, I should
> document well for this but doesn't handle it in driver (keep driver
> simple).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>
To: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Wei Xu <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Gross <andy.gross@linaro.org>,
	David Brown <david.brown@linaro.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Guodong Xu <guodong.xu@linaro.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>,
	"Suzuki K. Poulose" <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/9] coresight: add support for CPU debug module
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:46:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANLsYkwPYSvy2xjf8uuvx1WGWpGdMFy7kF=30VbvgW+jDvnFuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330015941.GD3038@leoy-linaro>

On 29 March 2017 at 19:59, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:55:35AM -0600, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > So this is why add "idle_constraint" as a central place to control
>> > power domain for CPU debug purpose and I also think this is more
>> > friendly for hardware design, e.g. some platforms can enable partial
>> > low power states to save power and avoid overheat after using this
>> > driver.
>> >
>> > How about you think for this?
>>
>> Like Sudeep pointed out we should concentrate on doing the right thing,
>> that is work with EDPRSR.PU, EDPRCR.COREPURQ and EDPRCR.CORENPDRQ.
>
> Agree, and I think we have aligned for this.
>
>> Anything outside of that becomes platform specific and can't be handled in
>> this driver.
>
> Sorry I argue a bit for this just want to make things more clear and
> if can have better method.
>
> Though the issue is platform specific, but the code is to seek common
> method to handle them. So the driver has no any platform specific code.

Seeking a common way to handle platform specific problems doesn't
scale and will never be encompassing.  There will always be a quirk
somewhere to deal with, hence the idea of keeping things separate.

>
> I read again for Suziki's suggestion: "4) Should document the fact that,
> on some platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to
> get the driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user
> with a not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working."

Suzuki and I are expressing the same view using different words.

>
> So I'm not strong to resist and if this is alignment yet, I should
> document well for this but doesn't handle it in driver (keep driver
> simple).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: mathieu.poirier@linaro.org (Mathieu Poirier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 6/9] coresight: add support for CPU debug module
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:46:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANLsYkwPYSvy2xjf8uuvx1WGWpGdMFy7kF=30VbvgW+jDvnFuw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330015941.GD3038@leoy-linaro>

On 29 March 2017 at 19:59, Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:55:35AM -0600, Mathieu Poirier wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> > So this is why add "idle_constraint" as a central place to control
>> > power domain for CPU debug purpose and I also think this is more
>> > friendly for hardware design, e.g. some platforms can enable partial
>> > low power states to save power and avoid overheat after using this
>> > driver.
>> >
>> > How about you think for this?
>>
>> Like Sudeep pointed out we should concentrate on doing the right thing,
>> that is work with EDPRSR.PU, EDPRCR.COREPURQ and EDPRCR.CORENPDRQ.
>
> Agree, and I think we have aligned for this.
>
>> Anything outside of that becomes platform specific and can't be handled in
>> this driver.
>
> Sorry I argue a bit for this just want to make things more clear and
> if can have better method.
>
> Though the issue is platform specific, but the code is to seek common
> method to handle them. So the driver has no any platform specific code.

Seeking a common way to handle platform specific problems doesn't
scale and will never be encompassing.  There will always be a quirk
somewhere to deal with, hence the idea of keeping things separate.

>
> I read again for Suziki's suggestion: "4) Should document the fact that,
> on some platforms, the user may have to disable CPUidle explicitly to
> get the driver working. But let us not make it the default. The user
> with a not so ideal platform could add "nohlt" and get it working."

Suzuki and I are expressing the same view using different words.

>
> So I'm not strong to resist and if this is alignment yet, I should
> document well for this but doesn't handle it in driver (keep driver
> simple).
>
> Thanks,
> Leo Yan

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-30 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-25 18:23 [PATCH v5 0/9] coresight: enable debug module Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23 ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] coresight: bindings for CPU " Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30 22:49   ` Rob Herring
2017-03-30 22:49     ` Rob Herring
2017-03-31  9:04   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-31  9:04     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-31  9:04     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] doc: Add documentation for Coresight CPU debug Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] coresight: of_get_coresight_platform_data: Add missing of_node_put Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] coresight: refactor with function of_coresight_get_cpu Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
2017-03-31  9:05   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-31  9:05     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-31  9:05     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] coresight: add support for CPU debug module Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
2017-03-27 16:34   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-27 16:34     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-27 16:34     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29  3:07     ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29  3:07       ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29  9:07       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29  9:07         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29  9:07         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29 10:27         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 10:27           ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 10:31           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29 10:31             ` Suzuki K Poulose
     [not found]             ` <89b6c6c7-0da0-6891-312a-c9221851c20a-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-29 10:37               ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 10:37                 ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 10:37                 ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 15:50                 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29 15:50                   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29 15:50                   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-29 15:17       ` Mike Leach
2017-03-29 15:17         ` Mike Leach
2017-03-29 15:17         ` Mike Leach
2017-03-30  1:18         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  1:18           ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  1:18           ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 15:41       ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-29 15:41         ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-29 15:41         ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-28 16:50   ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-28 16:50     ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-29  1:54     ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29  1:54       ` Leo Yan
2017-03-29 14:56       ` Mike Leach
2017-03-29 14:56         ` Mike Leach
2017-03-29 14:56         ` Mike Leach
2017-03-30  1:03         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  1:03           ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  1:03           ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  9:00           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-30  9:00             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-30  9:00             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-03-30 13:51             ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30 13:51               ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30 13:51               ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30 15:47         ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 15:47           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 15:47           ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-29 16:55       ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-29 16:55         ` Mathieu Poirier
     [not found]         ` <20170329165535.GB24889-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30  1:59           ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  1:59             ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30  1:59             ` Leo Yan
2017-03-30 15:46             ` Mathieu Poirier [this message]
2017-03-30 15:46               ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-30 15:46               ` Mathieu Poirier
2017-03-30 15:46               ` Mathieu Poirier
     [not found]               ` <CANLsYkwPYSvy2xjf8uuvx1WGWpGdMFy7kF=30VbvgW+jDvnFuw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30 16:04                 ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 16:04                   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 16:04                   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 16:04                   ` Sudeep Holla
     [not found]   ` <1490466197-29163-7-git-send-email-leo.yan-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30 15:56     ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 15:56       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-30 15:56       ` Sudeep Holla
2017-03-31  0:54       ` Leo Yan
2017-03-31  0:54         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] clk: hi6220: add debug APB clock Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
2017-04-04 21:51   ` Stephen Boyd
2017-04-04 21:51     ` Stephen Boyd
     [not found]     ` <20170404215109.GH18246-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-06 13:59       ` Leo Yan
2017-04-06 13:59         ` Leo Yan
2017-04-06 13:59         ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] arm64: dts: hi6220: register debug module Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23   ` Leo Yan
     [not found] ` <1490466197-29163-1-git-send-email-leo.yan-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-25 18:23   ` [PATCH v5 5/9] coresight: use const for device_node structures Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23     ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23     ` Leo Yan
     [not found]     ` <1490466197-29163-6-git-send-email-leo.yan-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-04 21:48       ` Stephen Boyd
2017-04-04 21:48         ` Stephen Boyd
2017-04-04 21:48         ` Stephen Boyd
2017-03-25 18:23   ` [PATCH v5 9/9] arm64: dts: qcom: msm8916: Add debug unit Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23     ` Leo Yan
2017-03-25 18:23     ` Leo Yan

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