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From: Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] time,virt: resync steal time when guest & host lose sync
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 15:09:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANRm+CzUAinBTigNVW37r4odfZmP6gT9vuHY1tnQrXGXp3i6jA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1470969892.13905.120.camel@redhat.com>

2016-08-12 10:44 GMT+08:00 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>:
> On Thu, 2016-08-11 at 18:11 +0800, Wanpeng Li wrote:
>> 2016-08-11 0:52 GMT+08:00 Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>:
>> > On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 07:39:08 +0800
>> > Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The regression is caused by your commit "sched,time: Count
>> > > actually
>> > > elapsed irq & softirq time".
>> >
>> > Wanpeng, does this patch fix your issue?
>>
>> I test this against kvm guest (nohz_full, four vCPUs running on one
>> pCPU, four cpuhog processes running on four vCPUs).
>> before this fix patch:
>> vCPU0's st is 100%, other vCPUs' st are ~75%.
>> after this fix patch:
>> all vCPUs' st are ~85%.
>> However, w/o commit "sched,time: Count actually elapsed irq & softirq
>> time", all vCPUs' st are ~75%.
>
> If you pass ULONG_MAX as the maxtime argument to
> steal_account_process_time(), does the steal time
> get accounted properly at 75%?

Yes.

>
> If that is the case, I have a hypothesis:
> 1) The guest is running so much slower when sharing
>    a CPU 4 ways, that it is accounting only ~90% of
>    wall clock time as CPU time, due to missing the
>    other 10% or so of clock ticks.
> 2) account_process_tick() only ever processes one tick
>    at a time - if it gets called only 90x a second for
>    a 100Hz guest, but all the steal time recorded by
>    the host is fully accounted (ULONG_MAX limit), then
>    that could make up for lost/skipped timer ticks.
> 3) not accounting "extra" steal time (beyond the amount
>    of time accounted by account_process_tick) would reduce
>    the total amount of time that gets accounted if there
>    are missed ticks, taking time away from user/system/etc
>
> Does the above make sense?
>
> Am I overlooking some mechanism through which lost/skipped
> ticks are made up for in the kernel?  I looked through the
> code in kernel/time/ briefly, but did not spot it...
>
> --
>
> All Rights Reversed.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-12  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-13 14:50 [GIT PULL] cputime fixes and cleanups Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-13 14:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched,time: Count actually elapsed irq & softirq time Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-14 10:37   ` [tip:timers/nohz] sched/cputime: " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2016-08-09  3:59   ` [PATCH 1/5] sched,time: " Wanpeng Li
2016-08-09 14:06     ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-09 23:07       ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-10  7:51         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-09 23:25       ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-09 23:31         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-09 23:35         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-09 23:39         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-10  5:07           ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-10  6:33             ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-10 16:52           ` [PATCH] time,virt: resync steal time when guest & host lose sync Rik van Riel
2016-08-11 10:11             ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-12  2:44               ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-12  7:09                 ` Wanpeng Li [this message]
2016-08-12 15:58                   ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-13 15:36                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-08-15  8:53                     ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-15 11:38                       ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-15 15:00                       ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-15 22:19                         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-16  1:31                         ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-16  2:11                           ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-16  6:54                             ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-16 14:01                               ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-16 23:08                                 ` Wanpeng Li
2016-08-12 16:33             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-12 17:23               ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-13  7:18                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-13  8:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-08-14  1:50               ` Rik van Riel
2016-08-18  8:23               ` Wanpeng Li
2016-07-13 14:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] nohz,cputime: Replace VTIME_GEN irq time code with IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING code Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-14 10:37   ` [tip:timers/nohz] sched/cputime: " tip-bot for Rik van Riel
2016-07-13 14:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched: Complete cleanup of old vtime gen irqtime accounting Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-14 10:38   ` [tip:timers/nohz] sched/cputime: Clean up the old vtime gen irqtime accounting completely tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-13 14:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched: Reorganize vtime native irqtime accounting headers Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-14 10:38   ` [tip:timers/nohz] sched/cputime: " tip-bot for Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-13 14:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] time: Drop local_irq_save/restore from irqtime_account_irq Frederic Weisbecker
2016-07-14 10:38   ` [tip:timers/nohz] sched/cputime: Drop local_irq_save/restore from irqtime_account_irq() tip-bot for Rik van Riel

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