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From: Ben Gardon <bgardon@google.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	Junaid Shahid <junaids@google.com>,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Yulei Zhang <yulei.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Protect kvm->memslots with a mutex
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 10:45:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CANgfPd9BWoO4Hy0e8urus4AaJP8t6fByqHK+ddsed6KFg6W97A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <623c2305-91ae-4617-357e-fe7d9147b656@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:02 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 29/04/21 02:40, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> it's not ugly and it's still relatively easy to explain.
> >
> > LOL, that's debatable.
>
>  From your remark below it looks like we have different priorities on
> what to avoid modifying.
>
> I like the locks to be either very coarse or fine-grained enough for
> them to be leaves, as I find that to be the easiest way to avoid
> deadlocks and complex hierarchies.  For this reason, I treat unlocking
> in the middle of a large critical section as "scary by default"; you
> have to worry about which invariants might be required (in the case of
> RCU, which pointers might be stored somewhere and would be invalidated),
> and which locks are taken at that point so that the subsequent relocking
> would change the lock order from AB to BA.

The idea of dropping the srcu read lock to allocate the rmaps scares
me too. I have no idea what it protects, in addition to the memslots,
and where we might be making assumptions about things staying valid
because of it.
Is there anywhere that we enumerate the things protected by that SRCU?
I wonder if we have complete enough annotations for the SRCU / lockdep
checker to find a problem if we were dropping the SRCU read lock in a
bad place.

>
> This applies to every path leading to the unlock/relock.  So instead
> what matters IMO is shielding architecture code from the races that Ben
> had to point out to me, _and the possibility to apply easily explained
> rules_ outside more complex core code.
>
> So, well, "relatively easy" because it's indeed subtle.  But if you
> consider what the locking rules are, "you can choose to protect
> slots->arch data with this mutex and it will have no problematic
> interactions with the memslot copy/update code" is as simple as it can get.
>
> >> diff --git a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> >> index 2799c6660cce..48929dd5fb29 100644
> >> --- a/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> >> +++ b/virt/kvm/kvm_main.c
> >> @@ -1377,16 +1374,17 @@ static int kvm_set_memslot(struct kvm *kvm,
> >>              goto out_slots;
> >>      update_memslots(slots, new, change);
> >> -    slots = install_new_memslots(kvm, as_id, slots);
> >> +    install_new_memslots(kvm, as_id, slots);
> >>      kvm_arch_commit_memory_region(kvm, mem, old, new, change);
> >> -
> >> -    kvfree(slots);
> >>      return 0;
> >>   out_slots:
> >> -    if (change == KVM_MR_DELETE || change == KVM_MR_MOVE)
> >> +    if (change == KVM_MR_DELETE || change == KVM_MR_MOVE) {
> >> +            slot = id_to_memslot(slots, old->id);
> >> +            slot->flags &= ~KVM_MEMSLOT_INVALID;
> >
> > Modifying flags on an SRCU-protect field outside of said protection is sketchy.
> > It's probably ok to do this prior to the generation update, emphasis on
> > "probably".  Of course, the VM is also likely about to be killed in this case...
> >
> >>              slots = install_new_memslots(kvm, as_id, slots);
> >
> > This will explode if memory allocation for KVM_MR_MOVE fails.  In that case,
> > the rmaps for "slots" will have been cleared by kvm_alloc_memslot_metadata().
>
> I take your subsequent reply as a sort-of-review that the above approach
> works, though we may disagree on its elegance and complexity.

I'll try Paolo's suggestion about using a second dup_slots to avoid
backing the higher level rmap arrays with dynamic memory and send out
a V2.

>
> Paolo
>
> > The SRCU index is already tracked in vcpu->srcu_idx, why not temporarily drop
> > the SRCU lock if activate_shadow_mmu() needs to do work so that it can take
> > slots_lock?  That seems simpler and I think would avoid modifying the common
> > memslot code.
> >
> > kvm_arch_async_page_ready() is the only path for reaching kvm_mmu_reload() that
> > looks scary, but that should be impossible to reach with the correct MMU context.
> > We could always and an explicit sanity check on the rmaps being avaiable.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-27 22:36 [PATCH 0/6] Lazily allocate memslot rmaps Ben Gardon
2021-04-27 22:36 ` [PATCH 1/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Track if shadow MMU active Ben Gardon
2021-04-27 22:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Skip rmap operations if shadow MMU inactive Ben Gardon
2021-04-27 22:36 ` [PATCH 3/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Deduplicate rmap freeing in allocate_memslot_rmap Ben Gardon
2021-04-28 10:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-28 16:23     ` Ben Gardon
2021-04-27 22:36 ` [PATCH 4/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Factor out allocating memslot rmap Ben Gardon
2021-04-27 22:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Protect kvm->memslots with a mutex Ben Gardon
2021-04-28  6:25   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-28 16:40     ` Ben Gardon
2021-04-28 17:46       ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-28 20:40         ` Ben Gardon
2021-04-28 21:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-28 21:46             ` Ben Gardon
2021-04-28 23:42               ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29  0:40                 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-04-29  1:42                   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-04-29  7:02                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-29 17:45                     ` Ben Gardon [this message]
2021-04-27 22:36 ` [PATCH 6/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Lazily allocate memslot rmaps Ben Gardon
2021-04-28 10:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-04-28 16:45     ` Ben Gardon

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