From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-il1-f182.google.com (mail-il1-f182.google.com [209.85.166.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E960F70 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 19:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-il1-f182.google.com with SMTP id h3so23565ilc.9 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 12:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=BYyuplLB6VFF72yk217sWc7Ns25p27J19r7psQIVioE=; b=odZrlbIfN81pGWJOyMiY5iNM4+Vlzt8jwMnKwhIFY7Tt1us6l3L1X0oaFo1AL9NN8v aZx7fYVgr7HOyHwwjn/E4nga4B+klUG93hQmsyTJ86Lxr6TmAL/z6FYvqJEowVNrc/H/ HMqz7d98K+l8PQVMvYMSgsIoD7WC2efTba6+l8CDaiSNxQ+VN81nXa+WaDqXoT/N6zsW PmwPHRHDe+PWCloWfLEszwWuUKv32gJQIX5Z5V+7kuApU6Kb+qbGnDe7pcd2eliY91Ry JWRz3a6kM9N8KNeRBDRPmL7UxD62Ufd1yhJQn/sZkGJHrqk66eV1vpGoDN2QQlb/9gPN uT+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BYyuplLB6VFF72yk217sWc7Ns25p27J19r7psQIVioE=; b=diHjnv/2h7/zo+v40MjOwCWNw6t9a7ioTt8V4D337dnmBOlEYoUDPoFeHWwrKxDlb+ OCYKkJMb6/SfEdXWoUkih8OX/Em80fQWHRkzTyIhHxw3DHU5F8sp9mi/FhJNLfWc/31G MXqiRvIuGMqOrFthZ/nl0Qpsp+p0U4lPY8mOF6+8HKntpVKuE5jo1QeUnRDJNXceptSk i3kgrrH063ns3J8mOMX6KhtdrpUgZcjSHnUGaa3oBiZUXiUcXo7EQnApQYESwpPOnVLm UHoCR1BYxcr69MvRqDagNZ3wTx1DQphjvFbzoF1rONZV7dqZL32GHtrSeYd9VVsR6aj3 Hb/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531QD6qYOSESNPyVGkdnmU3t+DSrDHqFXKfQLb40IDp/LDXioiDW qH47teFZu0pZYfAyosZg+5RewPG8AKn3pOqrGpw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzkJ523zsB26tixYqQ7bBmcPvCD2QBCGxIeAuq4RU2PHplECsS+5+eP6+uJbBxVs3x6O5i5DLOWTxFGXNn6pWE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:20ed:: with SMTP id q13mr15722709ilv.176.1625601568205; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 12:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Miguel Ojeda Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 21:59:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] Rust for Linux To: Laurent Pinchart Cc: Sasha Levin , Linus Walleij , Leon Romanovsky , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 8:38 PM Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > I agree with you here, it's a honest way to look at it: adopting Rust as > a second language in the kernel isn't just a technical decision with > limited impact, but also a process decision that will create a > requirement for most kernel developers to learn Rust. Whether that > should and will happen is what we're debating, but regardless of the > outcome, it's important to phrase the question correctly, with a broad > view of the implications. Exactly -- very well put. We will definitely get the most advantages from Rust if we all treat it as an actual second language. Cheers, Miguel