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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: "linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/11] ovl: lookup redirect by file handle
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:15:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxi6MGAdMqupMsOAuK4NDsJT1ZS1apYXyFpFO_Myy2PRGg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegtXZyX6aubi_TPP_532pb_y+Vv987U08pYkE2SPE0hOuw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
>> With all recent conclusions, do you see a reason to keep origin root fh?
>
> No, I'm quite happy if we don't :)
>
>> For snapshots I need just one thing -
>> Verify that origin.fh matches the lower of merge dir that was found by path.
>> The verification is very cheap (only encode the found dentry), so we may
>> do it in any configuration, just don't know how to act upon it.
>>
>> What to do in case verification fails may need configuration option.
>> For snapshots I need a 'strict' policy meaning that "stale lower" equals
>> "implicit opaque", but that will not do the right thing for copied layers case.
>>
>> The way I have it now in my snapshot patches is overload on the redirect_dir
>> mount option and add a value redirect_dir=fh. The build time and module
>> options are still boolean, but -o redirect_dir=fh sets config->redirect_dir=true
>> and config->redirect_fh=true.
>> config->redirect_fh can later be set to false if the prerequisite (samefs etc)
>> don't apply.
>>
>> I may need to separate the general ofs->redirect_fh capabiltiy from the mount
>> configuration (i.e. config->redirect_dir_fh or make
>> config->redirect_dir an enum).
>>
>> I could also add more policy options for redirect_dir, i.e.:
>> off - pre v4.10 compat
>> on - v4.10 compat (path only)
>> path - same as on, just to explicitly mention for when knowingly copying layers
>> fh - snapshot case, fh must be verified
>> auto - (the default?) best effort w.r.t lower dir renames -
>> lookup by path, verify fh, if fails try to lookup by fh, if fails use
>> path result anyway.
>>
>> I realize you prefer the "minimum configuration" policy, but I'm afraid we
>> are at a cross road of letting the user decide. No?
>
> Is this only about dirs though?

Well, we could add configuration options to decide if and how to follow
and verify fh for non-dir, but:

1. We agreed that trying to follow fh for non-dir is a no-loose situation
    for !redirect and hot cache case and a probable win for redirect with
    cold case
2. For snapshots the behavior should be the same -
    use the lower ino if you can find and hold lower inode
    use upper ino otherwise (i.e. snapshots are not binding the inode
    numbers forever)

So I see no reason, going forward, to provide a user configuration
for the lookup of non-dir.

>
> For now I'd just add a "verify_lower" option defaulting to off and not
> expand "redirect_dir".  That should take care of the snapshot case,
> right?
>

Right.

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-28  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-24  9:14 [PATCH v2 00/11] overlayfs constant inode numbers Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] ovl: store path type in dentry Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24 12:59   ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-24 13:10     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24 13:36       ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-24 13:41         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] ovl: cram opaque boolean into type flags Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] ovl: check if all layers are on the same fs Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] ovl: store file handle of lower inode on copy up Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24 13:32   ` kbuild test robot
2017-04-24 13:57     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 14:53   ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26  5:47     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26  9:21       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26  9:27         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26  9:35           ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26  9:39   ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26  9:53     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26  9:57       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] ovl: lookup redirect by file handle Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25  8:10   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 15:13   ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-25 17:41     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 19:11       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26  9:06         ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26  9:40           ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26  9:55             ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26 10:17               ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26 12:15                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26 14:51                   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27  6:27                     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27  7:48                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-27  9:22                         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27  9:26                         ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                           ` <CAOQ4uxiweaqzR3eT-StgtDFAHBuYhGRvAJE6v=XpH33MevpmoA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                             ` <CAJfpegtTJmcLVrLOeQbhu4Q6sM0Mi_FRgr+vStF0k95QsWm5uQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-04-27 13:53                               ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27 14:46                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-27 16:08                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-28  7:25                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-28  7:55                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-28  8:15                                         ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2017-04-28  9:37                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-28  9:57                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-28 10:05                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-28 10:45                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27  7:40                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] ovl: lookup non-dir inode copy up origin Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] ovl: set the COPYUP type flag for non-dirs Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26 14:40   ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26 14:53     ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26 15:02       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26 18:51         ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27  9:32         ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26 14:57     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] ovl: redirect non-dir by path on rename Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] ovl: constant st_ino/st_dev across copy up Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] ovl: persistent and constant inode number for directories Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24  9:14 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] ovl: fix du --one-file-system on overlay mount Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24 18:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] ovl: persistent inode numbers for hardlinks Amir Goldstein
2017-04-24 18:51 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] overlayfs constant inode numbers Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 11:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-25 12:05   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 12:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-25 12:41   ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 12:52     ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-25 13:23       ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 13:29         ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-25 13:49           ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-25 13:53             ` Vivek Goyal
2017-04-25 14:20               ` Amir Goldstein

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