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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 27/28] ovl: Verify a data dentry has been found for metacopy inode
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 18:51:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjB3vPtS+veYMSP1ZsBxbZs8O6QBQ6d81FQWgpjjP+Ntg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180404132136.GA12921@redhat.com>

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 03:51:37PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 01:53:24PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> > If we find a upper metacopy inode, make sure we also found associated data
>> >> > dentry in lower. Otherwise copy up operation later will fail.
>> >> >
>> >> > There are two cases where this can happen. First case is that somehow
>> >> > data file was removed from lower layer. Other case is that REDIRECT
>> >> > xattr was removed due to copy up of file on another cpu (when inode is
>> >> > shared between two dentries) and hence ovl_lookup() could not find the
>> >> > correct dentry.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Remind me again why we remove REDIRECT xattr?
>> >> Is it a must for functionality or just for being boy scouts?
>> >> I would prefer to avoid having to deal with races of this sort.
>> >> You can cleanup REDIRECT for non-dir that is not metacopy
>> >> on lookup when finding a I_NEW inode.
>> >
>> > Ok, thinking more about it. If we were to clean REDIRECT on lookup when
>> > finding I_NEW inode, that means we will have to always do
>> > vfs_removexattr(OVL_XATTR_REDIRECT) on all non-metacopy non-dir files.
>> > That does not sound like a very good idea. Its unnecessary overhead in
>> > lookup path.
>> >
>> > IOW, I think removing REDIRECT and doing appropriate locking around
>> > ovl_inode->redirect is probably better.
>> >
>>
>> Here is what I propose.
>> During lookup, you anyway check REDIRECT and check METACOPY
>> on upper and then call ovl_get_inode() with upper redirect and upper
>> metacopy information.
>
> We check for upperredirect only if metacopy xattr is found. Otherwise
> we skip checking for redirect.
>
> https://github.com/rhvgoyal/linux/blob/metacopy-v13/fs/overlayfs/namei.c#L270
>
>>
>> IF this is a new inode AND both REDIRECT and METACOPY were
>> found on upper THEN it is safe to remove REDIRECT xattr.
>
> If both METACOPY and REDIRECT were found, then we should not remove
> REDIRECT. That REDIRECT is still useful. REDIRECT should be removed
> only if METACOPY is not found and REDIRECT is found (on a non-dir file).
>
>>
>> Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see where the extra overhead
>> is, beyond the overhead already there for metacopy enabled lookup.
>
> Given we don't check for REDIRECT if upper is not METACOPY, that means
> we will have to always check for REDIRECT in ovl_get_inode() and add
> the unnecessary overhead (To all non-dir files).
>

I see.

>>
>> OTOH, I don't see what cleaning REDIRECT gets us in the first place.
>> During lookup, REDIRECT does not affect non metacopy non-dir,
>> because we skip ovl_check_redirect().
>> REDIRECT could actually be useful for reconstructing ORIGIN xattr
>> and index after copying layers, so not sure its a good thing to remove it
>> at all. After all, redirects are pretty rare as it is.
>
> I see it as unnecessary xattr present and feel that cleaning it is a
> good idea. Given we are thinking of packing REDIRECT xattr in tar file
> for layer backup and restore case, it makes even more sense to clean
> it up otherwise it shows up every where unnecessarily. I personally
> think it is always a good idea to cleanup information you don't need
> anymore, instead of letting it sit around.
>

Look. I have no objection to cleaning REDIRECT, but I am saying it
is tricky, so I think it is going to cost you a few more patches and maybe
a few more review cycles, so I advised against it.

But here is another idea: store the redirect string in the METACOPY
xattr, this way, removal of METACOPY xattr atomically cleans up
REDIRECT and in lookup, only need to check METACOPY xattr
(exists but empty means no redirect).

Cheers,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-04 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-29 19:38 [PATCH v13 00/28] overlayfs: Delayed copy up of data Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 01/28] ovl: Set OVL_INDEX flag in ovl_get_inode() Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  4:59   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 02/28] ovl: Initialize ovl_inode->redirect " Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  4:57   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 03/28] ovl: Rename local variable locked to new_locked Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  4:58   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 04/28] ovl: Provide a mount option metacopy=on/off for metadata copyup Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  4:52   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 13:56     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-05 20:16       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-06 13:51         ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 05/28] ovl: During copy up, first copy up metadata and then data Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 06/28] ovl: Move the copy up helpers to copy_up.c Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 07/28] ovl: Copy up only metadata during copy up where it makes sense Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 08/28] ovl: Add helper ovl_already_copied_up() Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 09/28] ovl: A new xattr OVL_XATTR_METACOPY for file on upper Vivek Goyal
2018-04-11 15:10   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-11 15:53     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 10/28] ovl: Modify ovl_lookup() and friends to lookup metacopy dentry Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  5:49   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-30  9:12     ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 19:45       ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-02 20:07         ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 15:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 11/28] ovl: Copy up meta inode data from lowest data inode Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 12/28] ovl: Fix ovl_getattr() to get number of blocks from lower Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  9:24   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 20:11     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-02 20:27       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 13/28] ovl: Add helper ovl_dentry_lowerdata() to get lower data dentry Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  6:01   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 15:08     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 14/28] ovl: Do not expose metacopy only dentry from d_real() Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 15/28] ovl: Move some of ovl_nlink_start() functionality in ovl_nlink_prep() Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  6:23   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 16/28] ovl: Create locked version of ovl_nlink_start() and ovl_nlink_end() Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  6:28   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 17/28] ovl: During rename lock both source and target ovl_inode Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  6:50   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 17:34     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 18/28] ovl: Check redirects for metacopy files Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30 10:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 20:29     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-03  5:44       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-03 12:31         ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 19/28] ovl: Treat metacopy dentries as type OVL_PATH_MERGE Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  6:52   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 20/28] ovl: Do not set dentry type ORIGIN for broken hardlinks Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  9:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-10 14:00     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-10 19:20       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-10 19:29         ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-10 20:59           ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-10 20:51         ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-11  8:58           ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-11 13:31             ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 21/28] ovl: Set redirect on metacopy files upon rename Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  7:31   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-11 15:12     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-11 17:01       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 22/28] ovl: Set redirect on upper inode when it is linked Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  7:04   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-11 15:59     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 23/28] ovl: Remove redirect when data of a metacopy file is copied up Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 24/28] ovl: Do not error if REDIRECT XATTR is missing Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  7:41   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 25/28] ovl: Use out_err insteada of out_nomem Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  7:35   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 26/28] ovl: Re-check redirect xattr during inode initialization Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30  8:56   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 19:35     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-02 20:25       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 27/28] ovl: Verify a data dentry has been found for metacopy inode Vivek Goyal
2018-03-30 10:53   ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-02 12:39     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-04 12:29     ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-04 12:51       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-04 13:21         ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-04 15:51           ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2018-04-05 14:37             ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-05 18:22               ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-05 19:58                 ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-05 20:45                   ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-06  9:46                     ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-06 15:37                       ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-06 16:21                         ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-06 17:32                           ` Vivek Goyal
2018-04-06 20:10                             ` Amir Goldstein
2018-04-09 12:18                               ` Vivek Goyal
2018-03-29 19:38 ` [PATCH v13 28/28] ovl: Enable metadata only feature Vivek Goyal

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