From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Michael Trimarchi Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:20:35 +0200 Subject: [U-Boot] u-boot-socfpga repository In-Reply-To: <54136030.3030200@ovro.caltech.edu> References: <201409110133.20669.marex@denx.de> <20140911120912.6E08.AA925319@jp.panasonic.com> <54112B64.5010104@monstr.eu> <20140911074618.51A09380CA2@gemini.denx.de> <20140911171431.GW25506@bill-the-cat> <54122DE5.1080006@opensource.altera.com> <20140912052527.B0714382307@gemini.denx.de> <54133B22.2090509@opensource.altera.com> <54136030.3030200@ovro.caltech.edu> Message-ID: List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: u-boot@lists.denx.de Hi Il 12/set/2014 23:16 "David Hawkins" ha scritto: > > Hi guys, > > I'm going to jump in here with an end-user's perspective, > along with an offer of assistance/contribution. > > I'm interested in using Altera's SOCs in my designs. > Altera guys - if you look over on the Altera Forum, > you will see that I am very active over there > (basically answering everyone's FPGA questions). > > Up until now I have avoided any SoC development kits as > I considered the software support to not have matured > enough. I consider "mature" code to be code that I can > checkout from mainline, where mainline is U-Boot via the > Denx repos, and Linux via the Kernel repos. > > Freescale has done this forever, and I hold their > processors and code in high regard. > > Texas Instruments has recently realized that this > is the way to go, and have invested significantly > in this area - as demonstrated by Tom Rini. > TI have dedicated a page to mainlining: > > http://www.ti.com/lsds/ti/tools-software/mainlinelinux.page > > TI have similarly gained my respect. > > The fact that discussion is now occurring for Altera's > SoCs indicates to me that a certain level of maturity has > been reached and that it is now time for me to consider > using these devices. > > I'd like to help, and I'm sure Ira Snyder will help too > (most likely more so than me). I would like to obtain > some SoC development kits so as to help with the SoC > "experience" for end-users. > > To aid in this development, I'd like some recommendations > on what hardware to buy. I've included the list below > the body of this email (to save cluttering the flow of > this discussion). Its possible for me to obtain one or more > of these boards. > > Which ones are supported in mainline U-Boot and Linux? > What will it take to make it easier for the end-user > like myself? > > I would like to be able to buy something like the Critical > Link or Denx modules and simply plug them into my custom > hardware, configure the FPGA fabric with whatever custom > "magic" I need, have Ira develop a custom drive to that > "magic" and just have things *WORK*. As an end-user, > I don't want to have to pull a dozen patches off the > mailing list to get a working system. > > Altera's success in the SoC market depends on "getting > it right" with respect to integration with the open-source > community. That integration involves playing by the established > set of rules. Wolfgang and his (creation and) support of U-Boot > is of immeasurable value to the open-source community. > > Altera developers, please follow Wolfgang's advice. > > Cheers, > Dave Hawkins, > California Institute of Technology. > We know and thank you very much for price list ;) Michael > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > 1. Cyclone V SoC Development Kit > > http://www.altera.com/products/devkits/altera/kit-cyclone-v-soc.html > > This is the main kit that most people are probably > developing with. At $1,795 its pretty expensive, > but I could request a couple of kits from the > Altera University Program. > > 2. Arria V SoC kit > > http://www.altera.com/products/devkits/altera/kit-arria-v-soc.html > > At $3,495 this is also very expensive. > This board still ships with ES (Engineering Sample), so I > would not buy this yet. > > 3. Terasic/Arrow SOCKit > > > http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?Language=English&No=816 > > At $299 this is pretty reasonable. > > 4. SOC System-on-Modules > > > http://www.altera.com/devices/processor/soc-fpga/cyclone-v-soc/module/system-module.html > > eg, Critical Link MitySOM > > http://www.criticallink.com/product/mitysom-5csx/ > > > http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Critical-Link/5CSX-H6-42A-RC/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvtrnhC60i%252bOnQkBUtKjKom2RbBJy3SVoI%3d > > Each module is about $600 at Mouser. > > 5. Denx MCV board > > http://www.denx-cs.de/?q=MCV > > These modules look reasonably priced. > > The CriticalLink and Denx modules look suitable for my intended > application, i.e., as the controller for a much larger FPGA board. > > Wolfgang - feel free to advise me to use the Denx modules, and > I'll take a more critical look at the data sheets to check > they have the features I want to use. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > U-Boot mailing list > U-Boot at lists.denx.de > http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot