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From: Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/33] mm: Implement readahead_control pageset expansion
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:36:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOg9mSQYBjnMsDj5pMd6MOGTY5w_ZR=pw7VRYKfP5ZwmHBj2=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210216132251.GI2858050@casper.infradead.org>

I plan to try and use readahead_expand in Orangefs...

-Mike

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 8:28 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 11:32:15AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 03:44:52PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> > > Provide a function, readahead_expand(), that expands the set of pages
> > > specified by a readahead_control object to encompass a revised area with a
> > > proposed size and length.
> > >
> > > The proposed area must include all of the old area and may be expanded yet
> > > more by this function so that the edges align on (transparent huge) page
> > > boundaries as allocated.
> > >
> > > The expansion will be cut short if a page already exists in either of the
> > > areas being expanded into.  Note that any expansion made in such a case is
> > > not rolled back.
> > >
> > > This will be used by fscache so that reads can be expanded to cache granule
> > > boundaries, thereby allowing whole granules to be stored in the cache, but
> > > there are other potential users also.
> >
> > So looking at linux-next this seems to have a user, but that user is
> > dead wood given that nothing implements ->expand_readahead.
> >
> > Looking at the code structure I think netfs_readahead and
> > netfs_rreq_expand is a complete mess and needs to be turned upside
> > down, that is instead of calling back from netfs_readahead to the
> > calling file system, split it into a few helpers called by the
> > caller.
>
> That's funny, we modelled it after iomap.
>
> > But even after this can't we just expose the cache granule boundary
> > to the VM so that the read-ahead request gets setup correctly from
> > the very beginning?
>
> The intent is that this be usable by filesystems which want to (for
> example) compress variable sized blocks.  So they won't know which pages
> they want to readahead until they're in their iomap actor routine,
> see that the extent they're in is compressed, and find out how large
> the extent is.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 15:44 [PATCH 00/33] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API [ver #3] David Howells
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 01/33] iov_iter: Add ITER_XARRAY David Howells
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 02/33] mm: Add an unlock function for PG_private_2/PG_fscache David Howells
2021-02-16 10:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-15 15:44 ` [PATCH 03/33] mm: Implement readahead_control pageset expansion David Howells
2021-02-16 10:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 13:22     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-17 14:36       ` Mike Marshall [this message]
2021-02-17 14:36         ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 15:42       ` David Howells
2021-02-17 16:59         ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 16:59           ` Mike Marshall
2021-02-17 22:20         ` David Howells
2021-02-16 11:48   ` David Howells
2021-02-17 16:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-17 22:34   ` David Howells
2021-02-17 22:49     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-18 17:47   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 04/33] vfs: Export rw_verify_area() for use by cachefiles David Howells
2021-02-16 10:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 11:55   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 05/33] netfs: Make a netfs helper module David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 06/33] netfs, mm: Move PG_fscache helper funcs to linux/netfs.h David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 07/33] netfs, mm: Add unlock_page_fscache() and wait_on_page_fscache() David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 08/33] netfs: Provide readahead and readpage netfs helpers David Howells
2021-02-15 15:45 ` [PATCH 09/33] netfs: Add tracepoints David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 10/33] netfs: Gather stats David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 11/33] netfs: Add write_begin helper David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 12/33] netfs: Define an interface to talk to a cache David Howells
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH 13/33] netfs: Hold a ref on a page when PG_private_2 is set David Howells
2021-02-15 15:47 ` [PATCH 14/33] fscache, cachefiles: Add alternate API to use kiocb for read/write to cache David Howells
2021-02-16 10:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16 15:08   ` David Howells
2021-02-15 15:47 ` [PATCH 15/33] afs: Disable use of the fscache I/O routines David Howells
2021-02-15 15:47 ` [PATCH 16/33] afs: Pass page into dirty region helpers to provide THP size David Howells
2021-02-15 15:47 ` [PATCH 17/33] afs: Print the operation debug_id when logging an unexpected data version David Howells
2021-02-15 15:47 ` [PATCH 18/33] afs: Move key to afs_read struct David Howells
2021-02-15 15:47 ` [PATCH 19/33] afs: Don't truncate iter during data fetch David Howells
2021-02-15 15:48 ` [PATCH 20/33] afs: Log remote unmarshalling errors David Howells
2021-02-15 15:48 ` [PATCH 21/33] afs: Set up the iov_iter before calling afs_extract_data() David Howells
2021-02-15 15:48 ` [PATCH 22/33] afs: Use ITER_XARRAY for writing David Howells
2021-02-15 15:48 ` [PATCH 23/33] afs: Wait on PG_fscache before modifying/releasing a page David Howells
2021-02-15 15:49 ` [PATCH 24/33] afs: Extract writeback extension into its own function David Howells
2021-02-15 15:49 ` [PATCH 25/33] afs: Prepare for use of THPs David Howells
2021-02-15 15:49 ` [PATCH 26/33] afs: Use the fs operation ops to handle FetchData completion David Howells
2021-02-15 15:49 ` [PATCH 27/33] afs: Use new fscache read helper API David Howells
2021-02-15 15:49 ` [PATCH 28/33] ceph: disable old fscache readpage handling David Howells
2021-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH 29/33] ceph: rework PageFsCache handling David Howells
2021-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH 30/33] ceph: fix fscache invalidation David Howells
2021-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH 31/33] ceph: convert readpage to fscache read helper David Howells
2021-02-15 15:50 ` [PATCH 32/33] ceph: plug write_begin into " David Howells
2021-02-15 15:51 ` [PATCH 33/33] ceph: convert ceph_readpages to ceph_readahead David Howells
2021-02-15 18:05 ` [PATCH 00/33] Network fs helper library & fscache kiocb API [ver #3] Jeff Layton
2021-02-15 18:05   ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-16  0:40   ` Steve French
2021-02-16  0:40     ` Steve French
2021-02-16  2:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-16  5:18       ` Steve French
2021-02-16  5:18         ` Steve French
2021-02-16  5:22       ` Steve French
2021-02-16  5:22         ` Steve French
2021-02-23 20:27         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-23 20:27           ` [f2fs-dev] " Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-24  4:57           ` Steve French
2021-02-24  4:57             ` [f2fs-dev] " Steve French
2021-02-24  4:57             ` Steve French
2021-02-24 13:32       ` David Howells
2021-02-24 15:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-16 11:01     ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-16 11:01       ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-15 22:46 ` [PATCH 34/33] netfs: Use in_interrupt() not in_softirq() David Howells
2021-02-16  8:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-16  9:06     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2021-02-16  9:29   ` David Howells
2021-02-16  9:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18 14:02     ` [PATCH 34/33] netfs: Pass flag rather than use in_softirq() David Howells
2021-02-18 15:06       ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-18 15:06         ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-18 15:16       ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-18 15:16         ` Marc Dionne
2021-02-19  9:01       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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