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From: Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>
To: Loic Dachary <loic@dachary.org>
Cc: Sage Weil <sage@newdream.net>,
	Ceph Development <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: puzzling disapearance of /dev/sdc1
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 17:26:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOi1vP_602U1BB0+epJ6ROJjiF7d-1uLv75M_SYPDeR2Oa47ig@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5672C258.1020700@dachary.org>

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Loic Dachary <loic@dachary.org> wrote:
> Hi Sage,
>
> On 17/12/2015 14:31, Sage Weil wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015, Loic Dachary wrote:
>>> Hi Ilya,
>>>
>>> This is another puzzling behavior (the log of all commands is at
>>> http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/14094#note-4). in a nutshell, after a
>>> series of sgdisk -i commands to examine various devices including
>>> /dev/sdc1, the /dev/sdc1 file disappears (and I think it will showup
>>> again although I don't have a definitive proof of this).
>>>
>>> It looks like a side effect of a previous partprobe command, the only
>>> command I can think of that removes / re-adds devices. I thought calling
>>> udevadm settle after running partprobe would be enough to ensure
>>> partprobe completed (and since it takes as much as 2mn30 to return, I
>>> would be shocked if it does not ;-).

Yeah, IIRC partprobe goes through every slot in the partition table,
trying to first remove and then add the partition back.  But, I don't
see any mention of partprobe in the log you referred to.

Should udevadm settle for a few vd* devices be taking that much time?
I'd investigate that regardless of the issue at hand.

>>>
>>> Any idea ? I desperately try to find a consistent behavior, something
>>> reliable that we could use to say : "wait for the partition table to be
>>> up to date in the kernel and all udev events generated by the partition
>>> table update to complete".
>>
>> I wonder if the underlying issue is that we shouldn't be calling udevadm
>> settle from something running from udev.  Instead, of a udev-triggered
>> run of ceph-disk does something that changes the partitions, it
>> should just exit and let udevadm run ceph-disk again on the new
>> devices...?

>
> Unless I missed something this is on CentOS 7 and ceph-disk is only called from udev as ceph-disk trigger which does nothing else but asynchronously delegate the work to systemd. Therefore there is no udevadm settle from within udev (which would deadlock and timeout every time... I hope ;-).

That's a sure lockup, until one of them times out.

How are you delegating to systemd?  Is it to avoid long-running udev
events?  I'm probably missing something - udevadm settle wouldn't block
on anything other than udev, so if you are shipping work off to
somewhere else, udev can't be relied upon for waiting.

Thanks,

                Ilya

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-17 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-17 12:30 puzzling disapearance of /dev/sdc1 Loic Dachary
2015-12-17 13:31 ` Sage Weil
2015-12-17 14:10   ` Loic Dachary
2015-12-17 16:26     ` Ilya Dryomov [this message]
2015-12-18 12:38       ` Loic Dachary
2015-12-18 15:31         ` Ilya Dryomov
2015-12-18 16:23           ` Loic Dachary
2015-12-18 16:32             ` Loic Dachary
2015-12-18 16:34               ` Loic Dachary

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