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From: Kaiwan N Billimoria <kaiwan.billimoria@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
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	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>,
	"Roberts, William C" <william.c.roberts@intel.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch>,
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	Will Deacon <wilal.deacon@arm.com>,
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	Chris Fries <cfries@google.com>,
	Dave Weinstein <olorin@google.com>,
	Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4] scripts: add leaking_addresses.pl
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 10:24:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDLWs-yd13yh4NKpB4msAxcG6BeXMSohfpU_Vv2RJFc5ApddA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDLWs8jyL3W_sGmHtw4Uw=8U_OYfeWJd_BpBLE7zvO4c6Z_8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Kaiwan N Billimoria
<kaiwan.billimoria@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But I don't know if there is anything else than the profiling code
>> that _really_ wants access to /proc/kallsyms in user space as a
>> regular user.
>

Front-ends to ftrace, like trace-cmd?
[from the trace-cmd git repo (Steve Rostedt, pl stand up, pl stand up :-)
Documentation/trace-cmd-restore.1.txt :
...
*-k* kallsyms::
    Used with *-c*, it overrides where to read the kallsyms file from.
    By default, /proc/kallsyms is used. *-k* will override the file to
    read the kallsyms from. This can be useful if the trace.dat file
    to create is from another machine. Just copy the /proc/kallsyms
    file locally, and use *-k* to point to that file.
...
]

> Am unsure about this, but kprobes? (/jprobes/kretprobes), and by
> extension, wrappers over this infra (like SystemTap)?
> I (hazily) recollect a script I once wrote (years back though) that
> collects kernel virtual addresses off of kallsyms for the purpose of
> passing them to a 'helper' kernel module that uses kprobes. I realize
> that 'modern' kprobes exposes APIs that just require the symbolic name
> & that they're anyway at kernel privilege... but the point is, a
> usermode script was picking up and passing the kernel addresses.
>
> Also, what about kernel addresses exposed via System.map?
> Oh, just checked, it's root rw only.. pl ignore.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kaiwan N Billimoria <kaiwan.billimoria@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>,
	"Roberts, William C" <william.c.roberts@intel.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <wilal.deacon@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v4] scripts: add leaking_addresses.pl
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 10:24:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDLWs-yd13yh4NKpB4msAxcG6BeXMSohfpU_Vv2RJFc5ApddA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDLWs8jyL3W_sGmHtw4Uw=8U_OYfeWJd_BpBLE7zvO4c6Z_8g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Kaiwan N Billimoria
<kaiwan.billimoria@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But I don't know if there is anything else than the profiling code
>> that _really_ wants access to /proc/kallsyms in user space as a
>> regular user.
>

Front-ends to ftrace, like trace-cmd?
[from the trace-cmd git repo (Steve Rostedt, pl stand up, pl stand up :-)
Documentation/trace-cmd-restore.1.txt :
...
*-k* kallsyms::
    Used with *-c*, it overrides where to read the kallsyms file from.
    By default, /proc/kallsyms is used. *-k* will override the file to
    read the kallsyms from. This can be useful if the trace.dat file
    to create is from another machine. Just copy the /proc/kallsyms
    file locally, and use *-k* to point to that file.
...
]

> Am unsure about this, but kprobes? (/jprobes/kretprobes), and by
> extension, wrappers over this infra (like SystemTap)?
> I (hazily) recollect a script I once wrote (years back though) that
> collects kernel virtual addresses off of kallsyms for the purpose of
> passing them to a 'helper' kernel module that uses kprobes. I realize
> that 'modern' kprobes exposes APIs that just require the symbolic name
> & that they're anyway at kernel privilege... but the point is, a
> usermode script was picking up and passing the kernel addresses.
>
> Also, what about kernel addresses exposed via System.map?
> Oh, just checked, it's root rw only.. pl ignore.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-09  4:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-07 10:32 [PATCH v4] scripts: add leaking_addresses.pl Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 10:32 ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 10:32 ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 10:50 ` Greg KH
2017-11-07 10:50   ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH
2017-11-07 10:50   ` Greg KH
2017-11-07 20:51   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 20:51     ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 20:51     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 13:56 ` David Laight
2017-11-07 13:56   ` [kernel-hardening] " David Laight
2017-11-07 13:56   ` David Laight
2017-11-07 20:58   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 20:58     ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 20:58     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 21:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-07 21:11       ` [kernel-hardening] " Linus Torvalds
2017-11-07 21:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-07 15:51 ` Petr Mladek
2017-11-07 15:51   ` [kernel-hardening] " Petr Mladek
2017-11-07 15:51   ` Petr Mladek
2017-11-07 20:39   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 20:39     ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 20:39     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 23:36 ` [kernel-hardening] " Laura Abbott
2017-11-07 23:36   ` Laura Abbott
2017-11-08  0:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08  0:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08  0:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08 20:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08 20:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-08 20:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-09  4:43       ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-09  4:43         ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-09  4:43         ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-09  4:54         ` Kaiwan N Billimoria [this message]
2017-11-09  4:54           ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-09  4:54           ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-09 18:11           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09 18:11             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-09 18:11             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-11-10  3:03             ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-10  3:03               ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-10  3:03               ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-08  1:13   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08  1:13     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08 12:10 ` [kernel-hardening] " Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 12:10   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 12:10   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 21:16   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08 21:16     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08 22:48   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08 22:48     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-09  0:49     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-09  0:49       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-09  0:49       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-09  2:08       ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-09  2:08         ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-10 22:12   ` [kernel-hardening] " Frank Rowand
2017-11-10 22:12     ` Frank Rowand
2017-11-12 11:49     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-12 11:49       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-12 11:49       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-12 18:02       ` Frank Rowand
2017-11-12 18:02         ` Frank Rowand
2017-11-12 21:18         ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-12 21:18           ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  1:06         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-13  1:06           ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-13  1:06           ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-10 13:56 ` kaiwan.billimoria
2017-11-10 13:56   ` kaiwan.billimoria
2017-11-12 22:21   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-12 22:21     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  5:46     ` kaiwan.billimoria
2017-11-13  5:46       ` kaiwan.billimoria
2017-11-13  6:08       ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  6:08         ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  6:52         ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-13  6:52           ` Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-20 15:39       ` [kernel-hardening] " Petr Mladek
2017-11-20 15:39         ` Petr Mladek
2017-11-19 23:56   ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-19 23:56     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-11 23:10 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-11 23:10   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-11 23:10   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-12 23:06   ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-12 23:06     ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-12 23:06     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  3:37     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-13  3:37       ` [kernel-hardening] " Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-13  3:37       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-13  4:35       ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  4:35         ` [kernel-hardening] " Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  4:35         ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-13  5:27         ` [kernel-hardening] " Kaiwan N Billimoria
2017-11-13  5:27           ` Kaiwan N Billimoria

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