From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: xerofoify@gmail.com (Nick Krause) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:33:12 -0400 Subject: Bad Patches and Issues with other devolopers In-Reply-To: References: <12636.1407268471@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <11442.1407344320@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org List-Id: kernelnewbies.lists.kernelnewbies.org On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Lidza Louina wrote: > Nick, stop sending patches and emails. Go talk to someone in real life, have > them to look at the emails and talk to them about it. > Talk to someone that understands your communication style and can explain > these things to you in a way that you can understand it. You are making > things worse by trying to contact people that you have annoyed. > > Step away from the computer and talk to someone in real life because none of > the emails and suggestions people have given seem to be helping you. > > Lidza > > On Aug 6, 2014 2:13 PM, "Nick Krause" wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day >> wrote: >> > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said: >> >> >> >> > oh man you have gained prominence in vger? >> >> > They have banned you from vger. >> >> >> >> Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember >> >> *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and >> >> could take literally years to straighten out. How to approach that? >> > >> > *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off and >> > wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point where >> > he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, *single-handedly* >> > turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help >> > playground means that he needs to be shown the door. >> > >> > i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if this >> > is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive influence >> > and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos. >> > >> > people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper answer >> > is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who would >> > desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start submitting >> > patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen and >> > follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become >> > useful contributors. nick is not. >> > >> > it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what he >> > should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, "ok, but what >> > should i be doing?" >> > >> > if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it offline. >> > nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have been >> > invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*. >> > >> > rday >> > >> > -- >> > >> > ======================================================================== >> > Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA >> > http://crashcourse.ca >> > >> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday >> > LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday >> > ======================================================================== >> > >> >> Robert, >> I am trying to listen now and this was my fault. >> Regards Nick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kernelnewbies mailing list >> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies Lidza, I am fine here. I didn't listen and that is the key issue if people don't want to give me a second change that's fine. Cheers Nick