From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: xerofoify@gmail.com (Nick Krause) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:56:18 -0400 Subject: Bad Patches and Issues with other devolopers In-Reply-To: References: <12636.1407268471@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <11442.1407344320@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: To: kernelnewbies@lists.kernelnewbies.org List-Id: kernelnewbies.lists.kernelnewbies.org On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Kristofer Hallin wrote: > People. Can we continue the technical discussions on this list? I have no > interest anymore in Nicks problems. > > Take the discussions with Nick off list. > > On Aug 6, 2014 8:46 PM, "Nick Krause" wrote: >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Lidza Louina >> wrote: >> > I still highly recommend that you talk to someone. >> > >> > Lidza >> > >> > On Aug 6, 2014 2:33 PM, "Nick Krause" wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Lidza Louina >> >> wrote: >> >> > Nick, stop sending patches and emails. Go talk to someone in real >> >> > life, >> >> > have >> >> > them to look at the emails and talk to them about it. >> >> > Talk to someone that understands your communication style and can >> >> > explain >> >> > these things to you in a way that you can understand it. You are >> >> > making >> >> > things worse by trying to contact people that you have annoyed. >> >> > >> >> > Step away from the computer and talk to someone in real life because >> >> > none of >> >> > the emails and suggestions people have given seem to be helping you. >> >> > >> >> > Lidza >> >> > >> >> > On Aug 6, 2014 2:13 PM, "Nick Krause" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Robert P. J. Day >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:48:14 +0100, Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar said: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > oh man you have gained prominence in vger? >> >> >> >> > They have banned you from vger. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Wow. I've been around for a dozen years or so, and can't remember >> >> >> >> *that* ever happening before. That takes some *major* doing, and >> >> >> >> could take literally years to straighten out. How to approach >> >> >> >> that? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > *sigh* ... the fact that nick has, *single-handedly*, pissed off >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > wasted the time of numerous subsystem maintainers to the point >> >> >> > where >> >> >> > he has been banned from LKML and has, in addition, >> >> >> > *single-handedly* >> >> >> > turned the kernel newbies mailing list into his personal self-help >> >> >> > playground means that he needs to be shown the door. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > i don't want to sound unsympathetic, but it doesn't *matter* if >> >> >> > this >> >> >> > is nick's fault or not -- he is, quite simply, a disruptive >> >> >> > influence >> >> >> > and is, at the moment, turning this mailing list into chaos. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > people are asking, can he be salvaged? to which the proper >> >> >> > answer >> >> >> > is, who cares? there are a *lot* of kernel newbies out there who >> >> >> > would >> >> >> > desperately like to get to the point where *they* can start >> >> >> > submitting >> >> >> > patches, and most of *those* people are willing to read and listen >> >> >> > and >> >> >> > follow the advice of the veterans to the point where they become >> >> >> > useful contributors. nick is not. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > it's massively ironic that countless people have told nick what >> >> >> > he >> >> >> > should be doing, to which his inveitable response is, "ok, but >> >> >> > what >> >> >> > should i be doing?" >> >> >> > >> >> >> > if you want to help nick, knock yourself out but take it >> >> >> > offline. >> >> >> > nick has already wasted far too much bandwidth that could have >> >> >> > been >> >> >> > invested in helping newbies that are willing to *listen*. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > rday >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ======================================================================== >> >> >> > Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, >> >> >> > CANADA >> >> >> > http://crashcourse.ca >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Twitter: >> >> >> > http://twitter.com/rpjday >> >> >> > LinkedIn: >> >> >> > http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ======================================================================== >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Robert, >> >> >> I am trying to listen now and this was my fault. >> >> >> Regards Nick >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Kernelnewbies mailing list >> >> >> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >> >> >> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies >> >> Lidza, >> >> I am fine here. I didn't listen and that is the key issue if people >> >> don't want to give me a second change that's >> >> fine. >> >> Cheers Nick >> Talk about what ? The issue is my listening. >> Cheers Nick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Kernelnewbies mailing list >> Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org >> http://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies Let's stop this discussion, I do feel I am getting no where and this is wasting the list's bandwidth. Nick