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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Niklas Soderlund <niklas.soderlund+renesas@ragnatech.se>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] PM / core: Invent a WAKEUP_POWERED driver flag
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:28:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFpAxS9fp3NNnsmKyqedshNZgSzqcsqXTA9WA-4LE06i7A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0i9Qa4K-=UfC_zuZgWrP3=1r3pfdQ1e-AqNttze8utKFw@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 November 2017 at 17:31, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
>> Hi Ulf,
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>> The Ethernet driver can still call device_set_wakeup_enable(... , false)
>>>>>> to control this.  If WoL is disabled by the user (or deemed not usable, see
>>>>>> below), it already does so.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think that API is intended to be used like that and I wonder
>>>>> if it even works as expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting the doc:
>>>>> "If device wakeup mechanisms are enabled or disabled directly by
>>>>> drivers, they also should use :c:func:`device_may_wakeup()` to decide what to do
>>>>> during a system sleep transition.  Device drivers, however, are not expected to
>>>>> call :c:func:`device_set_wakeup_enable()` directly in any case."
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafael, can you comment on this?
>>>>
>>>> There are ca. 100 callers in drivers.
>>>
>>> Yeah, but those doesn't normally use it to toggle the setting, but
>>> instead only to set a default value during ->probe() or whatever
>>> initialization code that runs.
>>>
>>> I think that makes a big difference, doesn't it?
>>
>> The few Ethernet drivers I looked at change the state in their
>> ethtool_ops.set_wol() callback, not during probe.
>> This is to be configured from userspace using ethtool.
>
> Which is the case I was talking about.
>
> Since changing the WoL setting via ethtool is expected to cause the
> sysfs knob to reflect its status, using device_set_wakeup_enable() in
> there is not actually confusing.
>
> The same applies to setting the default from ->probe().
>
> It will be confusing in all of the other cases, though.

Agreed, so using it to enable/disable wakeups during suspend is a bad idea.

I will re-spin my series, addressing your review comments.

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-10  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-08 15:15 [PATCH 0/3] PM / core: Invent a WAKEUP_POWERED driver flag Ulf Hansson
2017-11-08 15:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM / core: Re-factor some code dealing with parents in __device_suspend() Ulf Hansson
2017-11-08 15:26   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-08 15:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] PM / core: Add WAKEUP_POWERED driver flag Ulf Hansson
2017-11-08 15:32   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-09  0:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-09  8:44     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-11-09 11:40       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-10  9:44         ` Ulf Hansson
2017-11-09  0:41   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-09  8:53     ` Ulf Hansson
2017-11-09 11:51       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-08 15:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] PM / Domains: Take WAKEUP_POWERED driver flag into account Ulf Hansson
2017-11-08 15:32   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 0/3] PM / core: Invent a WAKEUP_POWERED driver flag Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-09  8:28   ` Ulf Hansson
2017-11-09  9:02     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-09 10:08       ` Ulf Hansson
2017-11-09 10:14         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-09 14:28           ` Ulf Hansson
2017-11-09 14:41             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-09 16:31               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-10  9:28                 ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2017-11-09 11:59         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-09 12:02           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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