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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 2/7] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 10:25:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFpTeB8MLXihpTnyk9RerVC_PNp8ogXG6aATLT2xLkp9mA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2169291.li0uc2Ryoq@vostro.rjw.lan>

+ Mark

On 8 September 2016 at 23:27, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>
> Currently, there is a problem with handling cases where functional
> dependencies between devices are involved.
>
> What I mean by a "functional dependency" is when the driver of device
> B needs both device A and its driver to be present and functional to
> be able to work.  This implies that the driver of A needs to be
> working for B to be probed successfully and it cannot be unbound from
> the device before the B's driver.  This also has certain consequences
> for power management of these devices (suspend/resume and runtime PM
> ordering).
>
> Add support for representing those functional dependencies between
> devices to allow the driver core to track them and act on them in
> certain cases where they matter.
>
> The argument for doing that in the driver core is that there are
> quite a few distinct use cases related to that, they are relatively
> hard to get right in a driver (if one wants to address all of them
> properly) and it only gets worse if multiplied by the number of
> drivers potentially needing to do it.  Morever, at least one case
> (asynchronous system suspend/resume) cannot be handled in a single
> driver at all, because it requires the driver of A to wait for B to
> suspend (during system suspend) and the driver of B to wait for
> A to resume (during system resume).
>
> To that end, represent links between devices (or more precisely
> between device+driver combos) as a struct device_link object
> containing pointers to the devices in question, a list node for
> each of them, status information, flags, a lock and an RCU head
> for synchronization.
>
> Also add two new list heads, links_to_consumers and links_to_suppliers,
> to struct device to represent the lists of links to the devices that
> depend on the given one (consumers) and to the devices depended on
> by it (suppliers), respectively.
>
> The entire data structure consisting of all of the lists of link
> objects for all devices is protected by SRCU (for list walking)
> and a by mutex (for link object addition/removal).  In addition
> to that, each link object has an internal status field whose
> value reflects what's happening to the devices pointed to by
> the link.  That status field is protected by an internal spinlock.
>
> New links are added by calling device_link_add() which may happen
> either before the consumer device is probed or when probing it, in
> which case the caller must ensure that the driver of the supplier
> device is present and functional and the DEVICE_LINK_SUPPLIER_READY
> flag must be passed to device_link_add() to reflect that.
>
> Link objects are deleted either explicitly, by calling
> device_link_del() on the link object in question, or automatically,
> when the consumer device is unbound from its driver or when one
> of the target devices is deleted, depending on the link type.
>
> There are two types of link objects, persistent and non-persistent.
> The persistent ones stay around until one of the target devices is
> deleted, while the non-persistent ones are deleted when the consumer
> driver is unbound from its device (ie. they are assumed to be valid
> only as long as the consumer device has a driver bound to it).  The
> DEVICE_LINK_PERSISTENT flag is passed to device_link_add() to create
> a persistent link and it cannot be used for links created at the
> consumer probe time (that is, persistent links must be created before
> probing the consumer devices).
>
> One of the actions carried out by device_link_add() is to reorder
> the lists used for device shutdown and system suspend/resume to
> put the consumer device along with all of its children and all of
> its consumers (and so on, recursively) to the ends of those list
> in order to ensure the right ordering between the all of the supplier
> and consumer devices.

Rafael, thanks for working on this and re-spinning this series. It's
indeed very interesting!

I am hoping "device links" should be able to solve some of those
device ordering issues I have observed for several SoCs, particularly
during system PM and in combination with runtime PM.

I intend to test the series as soon as I can and try to deploy it to
see if it solves some of the issues I have seen. I will also try to
review in more detail. No promises short term though. :-)

BTW, as I am mostly working on DT based platforms, I guess we would
later on need to discuss with the DT maintainers how to describe
device links.

A minor comment to the change-log. I would appreciate some information
about "error" handling. Especially, what happens in the driver core
when it's about to probe a device with a configured device link, but
the link hasn’t been established yet (the other device isn't
successfully probed). In the ideal scenario this shouldn't happen, but
of course it will. So I assume the driver core relies on the existing
deferred probe mechanism for this.

[...]

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-09  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-08 21:25 [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/7] Functional dependencies between devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:26 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 1/7] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:27 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 2/7] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-09  8:25   ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2016-09-09 12:06     ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 14:13       ` Ulf Hansson
2016-09-15  1:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-11 13:40   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-11 20:43     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-14  1:21       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-14  8:28         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-14 13:17           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:28 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 3/7] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-10 13:31   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-10 22:12     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:29 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 4/7] PM / runtime: Pass flags argument to __pm_runtime_disable() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:29 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 5/7] PM / runtime: Flag to indicate PM sleep transitions in progress Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-12 14:07   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-12 21:25     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-12 22:52       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-13  7:21       ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-13 23:59         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:30 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 6/7] PM / runtime: Use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-12  9:47   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-12 13:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-14  1:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:31 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 7/7] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:35 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/7] Functional dependencies between devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-10 11:39 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-10 22:04   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-13 17:57     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-13 23:18       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-18 12:39         ` Lukas Wunner
     [not found] ` <CGME20160913095858eucas1p267ec2397c9e4577f94557e4a38498164@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2016-09-13  9:58   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-13 22:41     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-18 11:23       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-15 22:03 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 0/5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:04   ` [Resend][RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:06   ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-16  7:53     ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-16 12:06       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-16 12:33     ` [Update][RFC/RFT][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-19 22:46       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-23 13:03         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-23 13:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-26 16:51           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-27 12:16             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-27  8:54       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-27 11:52         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-28 10:43           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-28 11:31             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 10:36               ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-15 22:06   ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:07   ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 4/5] PM / runtime: Use " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:07   ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-16  7:25   ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-16  7:57     ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-16 12:04       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-27 12:34   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-28  0:33     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-28 11:42       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-29  0:51         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-15 18:50           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-29  0:24 ` [PATCH v4 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29  0:25   ` [Resend][PATCH v4 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29  0:38   ` [PATCH v4 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-01  7:43     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-10-01 23:32       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29  0:38   ` [Resend][PATCH v4 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29  0:40   ` [PATCH v4 4/5] PM / runtime: Use " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29  0:41   ` [Rebase][PATCH v4 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29  6:58   ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-29 12:27     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-02 23:13   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-10-10 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:37   ` [Resend][PATCH v5 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:51   ` [PATCH v5 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-26 11:19     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-10-27 15:25       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-10-28  9:57         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-07 21:22         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08  6:45           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-08 19:21             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 19:43               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-08 20:58                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 20:58                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09  6:45                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-09  9:36                     ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-11-09  9:41                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-13 16:58                   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-10  0:43           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-10  0:59             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10  0:59               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10  7:14               ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-10 22:04                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10 22:04                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10 22:40                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-10 22:40                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-11  0:08                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-11  0:08                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-13 10:59                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-13 10:59                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-14 14:50                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-14 14:50                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-14  8:15                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-14  8:15                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-10  8:46               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-10 22:12                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10 22:12                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-27 15:32     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-07 21:39     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10  1:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-10  7:05       ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-10 23:09         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-13 17:34       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-14 13:48         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-14 15:48           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-14 16:00             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-10 12:54   ` [PATCH v5 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:56   ` [PATCH v5 4/5] PM / runtime: Use " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-20 13:17     ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:57   ` [Rebase][PATCH v5 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-18 10:46   ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Marek Szyprowski
2016-10-19 11:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-20 10:21       ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-10-20 12:54         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-27 15:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]   ` <5811F0CF.5000204@huawei.com>
2016-10-28  9:39     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-02 20:55       ` Hanjun Guo
2016-10-30 16:22 ` [PATCH v6 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:28   ` [Resend][PATCH v6 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:29   ` [Resend][PATCH v6 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:32   ` [PATCH v6 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:32   ` [PATCH v6 4/5] PM / runtime: Use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-18 14:01     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-18 15:53       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-18 16:37         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-19 12:38           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:32   ` [Resend][PATCH v6 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:40   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-31 17:47   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-01  3:50     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-02  7:58     ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-11-05 12:10       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-07 21:15       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08  6:36         ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-11-08 20:14           ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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