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From: Ewa Janczukowicz <janczukowicz.ewa@gmail.com>
To: lartc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HTB scheduler, problem with blocking high priority traffic
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 09:31:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPTuX4p9n7P9mwqc8KqJz80dQqzW8gXzLnNzpkAeJGBMHkPW=A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPTuX4qcK23dvd-Cd1=wX8TyHR5AUMZanLAwV4mfMetfgpd3Dg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Thank you for your suggestions.
@Andy
I do not know if arp has anything to do here. Especially that the
behaviour that I observe seems quite random. Sometimes it even works
as expected.

@Anton
I have run the test again, and collected the statistics with tshark
also before the enqueueing.
So I do see a different behaviour than for outoing interface. Thus for
incoming traffic TCP is close to zero for more than 40s, and later it
increases.
Whereas incoming udp traffic behaves as expected. Thus I observe the
"stairs" trend.

What suprises me is that I do not see any packet losses for udp on the
outgoing interface.
I share with you tc -s -d class show. However I do not know how to
share tshark info on this mailing list.

class htb 1:15 parent 1:1 leaf 50: prio 2 quantum 1000 rate 8bit ceil
1Mbit linklayer ethernet burst 225b/1 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst
1600b/1 mpu 0b overhead 0b level 0
 Sent 11912330 bytes 8133 pkt (dropped 749, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
 rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
 lended: 8 borrowed: 8125 giants: 0
 tokens: -738824047 ctokens: 179250

class htb 1:14 parent 1:1 leaf 20: prio 1 quantum 2550 rate 204Kbit
ceil 1Mbit linklayer ethernet burst 1599b/1 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst
1600b/1 mpu 0b overhead 0b level 0
 Sent 11521440 bytes 7620 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
 rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
 lended: 2845 borrowed: 4775 giants: 0
 tokens: 53919 ctokens: 11000

class htb 1:1 root rate 1Mbit ceil 1Mbit linklayer ethernet burst
1600b/1 mpu 0b overhead 0b cburst 1600b/1 mpu 0b overhead 0b level 7
 Sent 23433770 bytes 15753 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 0)
 rate 0bit 0pps backlog 0b 0p requeues 0
 lended: 12900 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
 tokens: 179250 ctokens: 179250

Thank you in advance.
Ewa





On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Anton Danilov
<littlesmilingcloud@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, Ewa.
>
> Can you catch the traffic with NFLOG target and tcpdump before
> enqueueing into device to investigate the original order of packets?
> Also, it will be useful to check the statistics of classes (tc -s -s
> -d class ls..). Can you share the some part of this data?
>
> 2016-04-12 16:17 GMT+03:00 Ewa Janczukowicz <janczukowicz.ewa@gmail.com>:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would like to ask a question about a weird (at least for me J) HTB
>> behavior that I get, while prioritizing one type of traffic.
>>
>> I am working on assuring low delay for UDP traffic at the home gateway
>> level. At this home gateway I have two types of traffic, TCP and UDP,
>> and I assure differentiated treatment by using HTB.
>> The bandwidth I am testing equals 1Mbit/s.
>>
>>  Thus, I have to types of leaf classes:
>> - UDP leaf class with:
>>     - the highest priority,
>>     - a short queue length (SFQ qdisc),
>>     - assured rate 200kbit/s and ceil rate 1Mbit/s,
>>      - quantum = 3 x MTU.
>>
>> - TCP leaf class with:
>>     - lowest priority,
>>     - default queue length (pFIFO qdisc),
>>     - minimum assured rate (8bit/s – to force it to stay in yellow mode
>> most of the time)  and ceil rate 1Mbit/s,
>>     - quantum = MTU.
>>
>> In order to see how the traffic interacts, for UDP I have a stairs
>> type of traffic, thus I start at 0bit/s and I increase the traffic
>> every ten seconds by 100kbit/s. When I reach 1Mbit/s I decrease every
>> 10s by 100kbit/s until I reach zero.
>>
>> Alongside, I have TCP traffic, either a file upload, either a simple
>> iperf (without any influence on observed behavior).
>>
>> Normally, most of the time, I get an expected behavior. Thus I can see
>> perfectly the traffic separation and the “stairs” trend of the UDP.
>> Additionally, UDP traffic takes over TCP (but TCP can still send – and
>> the trend is the opposite of UDP, thus first decreasing, later
>> increasing).
>>
>> However when the UDP bitrate is already decreasing (about 30 seconds
>> before reaching 0), TCP traffic completely takes over for a couple of
>> seconds. I can’t really understand this behavior, because it seems
>> that UDP traffic cannot send, but it shouldn’t be in “red” mode since
>> its bitrate is already decreasing.
>>
>> I think it has something to do with HTB scheduling and blocking UDP
>> traffic for some reason.
>>
>> I hope my question is clear, but I can also provide wireshark bitrate graphs.
>>
>> I will continue to test different configurations but I will appreciate
>> any suggestions.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>
>> Ewa
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>
>
> --
> Anton.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-18  9:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-12 13:17 HTB scheduler, problem with blocking high priority traffic Ewa Janczukowicz
2016-04-15 14:34 ` Ewa Janczukowicz
2016-04-15 15:51 ` Andy Furniss
2016-04-15 16:14 ` Anton Danilov
2016-04-18  9:31 ` Ewa Janczukowicz [this message]
2016-04-21  9:33 ` Ewa Janczukowicz

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