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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ben Widawsky <ben.widawsky@intel.com>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,  Linux NVDIMM <nvdimm@lists.linux.dev>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev,
	 Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	 Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/15] cxl/acpi: Reserve CXL resources from request_free_mem_region
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 17:47:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4i5MZcMcCq8V7sZQjqup6MPOoOj2Zuu8HEECADfFi2Tcg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220419230412.GU2120790@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 4:04 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 02:59:46PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>
> > ...or are you suggesting to represent CXL free memory capacity in
> > iomem_resource and augment the FW list early with CXL ranges. That
> > seems doable, but it would only represent the free CXL ranges in
> > iomem_resource as the populated CXL ranges cannot have their resources
> > reparented after the fact, and there is plenty of code that expects
> > "System RAM" to be a top-level resource.
>
> Yes, something more like this. iomem_resource should represent stuff
> actually in use and CXL shouldn't leave behind an 'IOW' for address
> space it isn't actually able to currently use.

So that's the problem, these gigantic windows need to support someone
showing up unannounced with a stack of multi-terabyte devices to add
to the system. The address space is idle before that event, but it
needs to be reserved for CXL because the top-level system decode makes
mandates like "CXL cards of type X performance Y inserted underneath
CXL host-bridge Z can only use CXL address ranges 1, 4 and 5".

> Your whole description sounds like the same problems PCI hotplug has
> adjusting the bridge windows.

...but even there the base bounds (AFAICS) are coming from FW (_CRS
entries for ACPI described PCIe host bridges). So if CXL follows that
model then the entire unmapped portion of the CXL ranges should be
marked as an idle resource in iomem_resource.

The improvement that offers over this current proposal is that it
allows for global visibility of CXL hotplug resources, but it does set
up a discontinuity between FW mapped and OS mapped CXL. FW mapped will
have top-level "System RAM" resources indistinguishable from typical
DRAM while OS mapped CXL will look like this:

100000000-1ffffffff : CXL Range 0
  108000000-1ffffffff : region5
    108000000-1ffffffff : System RAM (CXL)

...even though to FW "range 0" spans across a BIOS mapped portion and
"free for OS to use" portion.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-20  0:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-13 18:37 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Region driver Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] cxl/core: Use is_endpoint_decoder Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 21:22   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220415205052uscas1p209e03abf95b9c80b2ba1f287c82dfd80@uscas1p2.samsung.com>
2022-04-15 20:50     ` Adam Manzanares
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] cxl/core/hdm: Bail on endpoint init fail Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 21:31   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]     ` <CGME20220418163713uscas1p17b3b1b45c7d27e54e3ecb62eb8af2469@uscas1p1.samsung.com>
2022-04-18 16:37       ` Adam Manzanares
2022-05-12 15:50         ` Ben Widawsky
2022-05-12 17:27           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13 12:09             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-13 15:03               ` Dan Williams
2022-05-13 15:12               ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-13 19:14                 ` Dan Williams
2022-05-13 19:31                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-05-19  5:09                     ` Dan Williams
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] Revert "cxl/core: Convert decoder range to resource" Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 21:43   ` Dan Williams
2022-05-12 16:09     ` Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] cxl/core: Create distinct decoder structs Ben Widawsky
2022-04-15  1:45   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-18 20:43     ` Dan Williams
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] cxl/acpi: Reserve CXL resources from request_free_mem_region Ben Widawsky
2022-04-18 16:42   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-19 16:43     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-19 21:50       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-19 21:59         ` Dan Williams
2022-04-19 23:04           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-20  0:47             ` Dan Williams [this message]
2022-04-20 14:34               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-20 15:32                 ` Dan Williams
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] cxl/acpi: Manage root decoder's address space Ben Widawsky
2022-04-18 22:15   ` Dan Williams
2022-05-12 19:18     ` Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] cxl/port: Surface ram and pmem resources Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] cxl/core/hdm: Allocate resources from the media Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] cxl/core/port: Add attrs for size and volatility Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] cxl/core: Extract IW/IG decoding Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] cxl/acpi: Use common " Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] cxl/region: Add region creation ABI Ben Widawsky
2022-05-04 22:56   ` Verma, Vishal L
2022-05-05  5:17     ` Dan Williams
2022-05-12 15:54       ` Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] cxl/core/port: Add attrs for root ways & granularity Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] cxl/region: Introduce configuration Ben Widawsky
2022-04-13 18:37 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] cxl/region: Introduce a cxl_region driver Ben Widawsky
2022-05-20 16:23 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] Region driver Jonathan Cameron
2022-05-20 16:41   ` Dan Williams
2022-05-31 12:21     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-23  5:40       ` Dan Williams
2022-06-23 15:08         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-23 17:33           ` Dan Williams
2022-06-23 23:44             ` Dan Williams
2022-06-24  9:08             ` Jonathan Cameron

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