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From: Song Liu <liu.song.a23@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] perf/core: Add PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP feature
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:02:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPhsuW42ivYU=U5E9jLMWZZgXP_Dv0C_SMFBsiXa53=6bN-=Wg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190831045815.GE2263813@devbig004.ftw2.facebook.com>

Hi Tejun,

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 6:01 AM Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 12:03:26PM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > Hmm.. it looks hard to use fhandle as the identifier since perf
> > sampling is done in NMI context.  AFAICS the encode_fh part seems ok
> > but getting dentry/inode from a kernfs_node seems not.
> >
> > I assume kernfs_node_id's ino and gen are same to its inode's.  Then
> > we might use kernfs_node for encoding but not sure you like it ;-)
>
> Oh yeah, the whole cgroup id situation is kinda shitty and it's likely
> that it needs to be cleaned up a bit for this to be used widely.  The
> issues are...

Here are my 2 cents about this.

I think we don't need a perfect identifier in this case. IIUC, the goal of
this patchset is to map each sample with a cgroup name (or full path).
To achieve this, we need

1. PERF_RECORD_CGROUP, that maps
           "64-bit number" => cgroup name/path
2. PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP, that adds "64-bit number" to each sample.

I call the id a "64-bit number" because it is not required to be a globally
unique id. As long as it is consistent within the same perf-record session,
we won't get any confusion. Since we add PERF_RECORD_CGROUP
for each cgroup creation, we will map most of samples correctly even
when the  "64-bit number" is recycled within the same perf-record session.

At the moment, I think ino is good enough for the "64-bit number" even
for 32-bit systems. If we don't call it "ino" (just call it "cgroup_tag" or
"cgroup_id", we can change it when kernfs provides a better 64-bit id.

About full path name: The user names the full path here. If the user gives
two different workloads the same name/path, we really cannot change that.
Reasonable users would be able to make sense from the full path.

Thanks,
Song

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-14 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-28  7:31 [PATCHSET 0/9] perf: Improve cgroup profiling (v1) Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 1/9] perf/core: Add PERF_RECORD_CGROUP event Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  9:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  9:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:13     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-08-30  3:46     ` Namhyung Kim
2019-08-30  7:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-30 22:49         ` Namhyung Kim
2019-08-30 23:52           ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-28 14:48   ` Tejun Heo
2019-08-30  3:56     ` Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf/core: Add PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP feature Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28 14:49   ` Tejun Heo
2019-08-31  3:03     ` Namhyung Kim
2019-08-31  4:58       ` Tejun Heo
2019-09-03  2:13         ` Namhyung Kim
2019-09-05 16:56           ` Tejun Heo
2019-09-08 13:28             ` Namhyung Kim
2019-09-14 14:02         ` Song Liu [this message]
2019-09-16 15:23           ` Tejun Heo
2019-09-19  6:42             ` Song Liu
2019-09-20  8:47               ` Namhyung Kim
2019-09-20 16:13                 ` Song Liu
2019-09-20 21:04                 ` Tejun Heo
2019-10-02  6:28                   ` Namhyung Kim
2019-10-07 14:16                     ` Tejun Heo
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 3/9] perf tools: Basic support for CGROUP event Namhyung Kim
2019-08-30 12:55   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-08-30 22:51     ` Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 4/9] perf tools: Maintain cgroup hierarchy Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 5/9] perf report: Add 'cgroup' sort key Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 6/9] perf record: Support synthesizing cgroup events Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 7/9] perf record: Add --all-cgroups option Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 8/9] perf top: " Namhyung Kim
2019-08-28  7:31 ` [PATCH 9/9] perf script: Add --show-cgroup-events option Namhyung Kim
2019-12-20  4:32 [PATCHSET 0/9] perf: Improve cgroup profiling (v2) Namhyung Kim
2019-12-20  4:32 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf/core: Add PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP feature Namhyung Kim
2019-12-20  9:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-20 15:23   ` Tejun Heo
2019-12-20 16:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-20 16:59       ` Tejun Heo
2019-12-23  6:07 [PATCHSET 0/9] perf: Improve cgroup profiling (v3) Namhyung Kim
2019-12-23  6:07 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf/core: Add PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP feature Namhyung Kim
2020-01-07 13:34 [PATCHSET 0/9] perf: Improve cgroup profiling (v4) Namhyung Kim
2020-01-07 13:34 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf/core: Add PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP feature Namhyung Kim
2020-03-25 12:45 [PATCHSET 0/9] perf: Improve cgroup profiling (v6) Namhyung Kim
2020-03-25 12:45 ` [PATCH 2/9] perf/core: Add PERF_SAMPLE_CGROUP feature Namhyung Kim

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