From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-yb1-f170.google.com (mail-yb1-f170.google.com [209.85.219.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C63F2CA8 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-f170.google.com with SMTP id g14so71182329ybs.8 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:23:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fooishbar-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jPuiYEcG4FnWkIuFPqkRcRVpvVkaLhzeqgzV7xKH14Q=; b=ewLZjb/kz8m2HtjYdnAVs0d6LZQx+WTZt+orOV0l8nTnUgSVQ0eUfPjPKOuGXOprqH q+nkNGxOfOEWLG/1cFI1B3cNzRFe08HtHDclQ92/sVafT+mn5HrRKJ214D/lJNSExvNy TYDj8iR0Buo4hq3h/SksMeQeDptCb1a8BBpGIQqqYeWdCCQKSGP4sWEZlNzwcqj9Rvyw /LahDA5l0TYjKmCykL/i86UddMiaPtnHjEUtQpSI9ONIGFC3a0yBAmWCkgTc9AR7WIfe SOjSbumt1c9aEDI92MdG5iUhzjYt0LSSBXSmWbhfsBnJLgJfBKou1pKtJBiAZcyJtBOm D7xw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jPuiYEcG4FnWkIuFPqkRcRVpvVkaLhzeqgzV7xKH14Q=; b=b3aBaFHUTmdFRsXX+zVY1ivifCwRk/PdadXsHVEtTS2/noWwybKYpY1wAQkeOQ5FCf qAHULjj5mkvrF1hVNH2EQMfEbvguNCCUPDVMyvAFMi7rAcpZxIH/8RESr4Hf5OVYREij E7jdLiePaxsRdBvWMUb0+wI90t/52cVBBGQ4CDMiZksbeMSgWcaFvUdkS3Tngd9e0I78 57g6TCe51TStM5EKo5OVRSmRy1MvA+H2kLSYekRvxIAKYDrSPBc8lWXxAbiyru3NJaMJ MJMd4FN+fxFb8ESuWxywlsyApDhqTmZQE+dqqr9BdDZBVxyKojGuc6y1roOyc4CDpw65 96Nw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531OR7BX5SOHBQrIP+Z4ncFv3rn+Z5FV560zHehbfoysSQhSTzGU Df64LHpSjzx45NKZ7YsojezD6lloWerFk6oAMumWDg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxxCbMVJG9gHaE8ZKo4BsT/wUzC0M9V+d+2hU/nFLU0sy/IPS0viii6yaS4V+oGBlN/XPYsea0s2HkXU8/+GU8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:b:: with SMTP id l11mr33020891ybh.376.1643203384097; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:23:04 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-staging@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <20220125202118.63362-2-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Stone Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:22:52 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver To: Andy Shevchenko Cc: Daniel Vetter , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , Helge Deller , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Carlis , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 13:08, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > It's not useful to bury the /dev/fbX out for the devices that > the use of are black-and-white output on small embedded systems. It's not useful to decide that such systems should only be supported by a subsystem which has been deprecated for a long time and which has little userspace support. It's also not useful to spend time working on that subsystem, rather than the one everyone has agreed on for the last 15 years, is supported by userspace, is expressive, and has a kernel subsystem which isn't a forest of CVEs and broken locking. Cheers, Daniel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (gabe.freedesktop.org [131.252.210.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0163C28CF5 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gabe.freedesktop.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6F910E6EB; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yb1-xb30.google.com (mail-yb1-xb30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b30]) by gabe.freedesktop.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 263B410E6EB for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-xb30.google.com with SMTP id c10so71434560ybb.2 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:23:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fooishbar-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jPuiYEcG4FnWkIuFPqkRcRVpvVkaLhzeqgzV7xKH14Q=; b=ewLZjb/kz8m2HtjYdnAVs0d6LZQx+WTZt+orOV0l8nTnUgSVQ0eUfPjPKOuGXOprqH q+nkNGxOfOEWLG/1cFI1B3cNzRFe08HtHDclQ92/sVafT+mn5HrRKJ214D/lJNSExvNy TYDj8iR0Buo4hq3h/SksMeQeDptCb1a8BBpGIQqqYeWdCCQKSGP4sWEZlNzwcqj9Rvyw /LahDA5l0TYjKmCykL/i86UddMiaPtnHjEUtQpSI9ONIGFC3a0yBAmWCkgTc9AR7WIfe SOjSbumt1c9aEDI92MdG5iUhzjYt0LSSBXSmWbhfsBnJLgJfBKou1pKtJBiAZcyJtBOm D7xw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jPuiYEcG4FnWkIuFPqkRcRVpvVkaLhzeqgzV7xKH14Q=; b=7EfFVsExkbkU18C0q/xtgFijGqebxaPQd5xstxLfgwLRW432FHDqLSoX80anihsaeu EzS8TM4Hbwnxxb2skMA73GZnCxR8he/AoQJfHj/WYtnZv17iVf2qMFaCe/gJz/SJdqRP X1FhgcBJefIMKzdfhDJWWdqszsPduuNjiwIMw658Xxvor4zp/Inz94Xdco1N6ToManby k5CZvqJkgfe3Uifk1lRMjF4c4uj5HafwZUKoKLOKmbjK9N648n/U6ZrtzM+UYCwM8nEH pPTYT/euK+kFkh35c87sacnZZ6rLlE3GdQxYzVHRxWEbOGisQGkZgdofHd8hoTp/lWC6 msXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53194gaBIcLQK8aaPRQlwWeRAeY1cR2L3/jmgu0XwgHSfSTxiC1w 7o+OO4n6d/kq7AgdGLjsHznHpSrckNm2C0m6Kteb1g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxxCbMVJG9gHaE8ZKo4BsT/wUzC0M9V+d+2hU/nFLU0sy/IPS0viii6yaS4V+oGBlN/XPYsea0s2HkXU8/+GU8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:b:: with SMTP id l11mr33020891ybh.376.1643203384097; Wed, 26 Jan 2022 05:23:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220125202118.63362-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> <20220125202118.63362-2-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Stone Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 13:22:52 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/4] fbtft: Unorphan the driver To: Andy Shevchenko Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Andy Shevchenko , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Hennerich , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Helge Deller , linux-staging@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Phillip Potter , Carlis , Lee Jones , Heiner Kallweit Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" Hi, On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 at 13:08, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > It's not useful to bury the /dev/fbX out for the devices that > the use of are black-and-white output on small embedded systems. It's not useful to decide that such systems should only be supported by a subsystem which has been deprecated for a long time and which has little userspace support. It's also not useful to spend time working on that subsystem, rather than the one everyone has agreed on for the last 15 years, is supported by userspace, is expressive, and has a kernel subsystem which isn't a forest of CVEs and broken locking. Cheers, Daniel