From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.2 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9C8C07E96 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from phobos.denx.de (phobos.denx.de [85.214.62.61]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AA4561469 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 15:21:58 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9AA4561469 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=chromium.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Received: from h2850616.stratoserver.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by phobos.denx.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B8082D83; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 17:21:56 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: phobos.denx.de; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=chromium.org Authentication-Results: phobos.denx.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Authentication-Results: phobos.denx.de; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=chromium.org header.i=@chromium.org header.b="FWXX5by+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by phobos.denx.de (Postfix, from userid 109) id DD15682D84; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 17:21:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-wm1-x334.google.com (mail-wm1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by phobos.denx.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58C3B82C5C for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2021 17:21:52 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: phobos.denx.de; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=chromium.org Authentication-Results: phobos.denx.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=sjg@google.com Received: by mail-wm1-x334.google.com with SMTP id l18-20020a1ced120000b029014c1adff1edso2042468wmh.4 for ; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 08:21:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chromium.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=s2vj2GnZ5QWn9ysijPgxOM8buJ4iVGUaQHCez5a31tU=; b=FWXX5by+xD8Adx1jxVrfCPrNf3wG9sxp/RUtGGAfcDQqeUyWO4Qd4zqXw8GWNn7N03 4VATffHVMAr3qrfQHEpS7k+adRMstq3ZYRAHtavAJab2FMlIt0ekrhuzDPK4cRYZOTtA Cthx703uWHpdgvpjcalRwWz6hOFL2ZJqbRm+I= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=s2vj2GnZ5QWn9ysijPgxOM8buJ4iVGUaQHCez5a31tU=; b=tv39kjs5QaeuNc+MGSMN5iZemtczhVaDDCpJVFQ0o78cY6KqhKDuQatxHr6PslRm5E 6jkALkMkBp9+GsohUS63vkXtIPjrOsFrm8GPH1MmqSEtPOuDna15AuAk+KxfQb4L3r8J zAPpe9Tk4UjgQQz6RmDcLudfCp43623i+KUcY/sl/z3M4QHaT7XpQihC7vqAZcvSCEW9 rVWgw0rq5STXeWL8go874Q0yahtrGguXNEjLPl1/QlYpE5RCLWcFL19bSHkSneURGtME oK+NXUKgJBy0gVVTLWOVWvoqEpqrGkgveUE7fgaZVu8XxY/buym8dH6oHeDEzigxPyol /TeQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530kmn8mqqp5vGCHgGSk//lPDSYBLvvYapzOMg89jwiuofb5W0UN 0jHEVqVFbO7npr4k9JGCz51NMqcOIQ2OKihKBcqheA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxCPwZUQh5pyHg0JmHFzRd1yC6vmdBGUiedxgMvkfOYP2NyQ3/dcG0mIK/o+n56tZBh6/CmRZjZ1bSI+Fb1GJo= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4e0c:: with SMTP id g12mr1408780wmh.120.1625584911691; Tue, 06 Jul 2021 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210701061611.957918-1-seanga2@gmail.com> <20210701061611.957918-6-seanga2@gmail.com> <163753.1625507898@gemini.denx.de> <20210705185141.GA9516@bill-the-cat> <192285.1625557976@gemini.denx.de> In-Reply-To: <192285.1625557976@gemini.denx.de> From: Simon Glass Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:21:40 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/28] cli: lil: Rename some functions to be more like TCL To: Wolfgang Denk Cc: Tom Rini , Sean Anderson , U-Boot Mailing List , =?UTF-8?B?TWFyZWsgQmVow7pu?= , Roland Gaudig , Heinrich Schuchardt , Kostas Michalopoulos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: u-boot@lists.denx.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: U-Boot discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: u-boot-bounces@lists.denx.de Sender: "U-Boot" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.2 at phobos.denx.de X-Virus-Status: Clean Hi Wolfgang, On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 01:53, Wolfgang Denk wrote: > > Dear Tom, > > In message <20210705185141.GA9516@bill-the-cat> you wrote: > > > > I think I want to try and address this. While with "hush" we have > > something that's in heavy active development outside of U-Boot, with LIL > > we have something that's mature and "done". > > Mature? And still without consequent error checking? And done, > i. e. this will never be fixed? > > > > Tracking an active outside development is HARD and requires > > constant resync. > > Based on that logic we should stop supporting Linux, and stop using > DTs or file systems - all of these are under "active outside > development". > > This is a bogus argiment. > > > > Look at the last few > > LIL releases. That could be easily re-worked in to our fork if needed. > > I see that as a positive, not a negative. > > OK, this is your opinion. Mine differs. > > Please consider this as a full NAK from me when when you think of it > as a _replacement_ (even an optional one) of the standard shell. If > you like, have it added as an _additional_ command, of course fully > optional and without impact on the rest of U-Boot if not > intentionally selected. That seems reasonable to me. There is certainly interest in these threads in reporting hush, perhaps with a goal of upstreaming the U-Boot-specific changes back to busybox. But so far no one has done it... Regards, Simon